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MrMannn
May 12th, 2003, 09:55 AM
1) where is the verse that forbids dabbling in divinations.
2) where is the verse that talks about no more prophets comming.
I'm in a position where I need those.
BlueX
May 12th, 2003, 10:21 AM
Possibly for #1
Lev 20:27 (NAS95)
27 'Now a man or a woman who is a medium or a spiritist shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.'"
Deu 18:10-12 (NAS95)
10 "There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
11 or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
12 "For whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and because of these detestable things the LORD your God will drive them out before you.
#2 I am not sure of, will try to find.
MrMannn
May 12th, 2003, 11:11 AM
Thanx!
BlueX
May 12th, 2003, 11:21 AM
You are welcome.
also for #1
Lev 19:31 (NAS95)
31 'Do not turn to mediums or spiritists; do not seek them out to be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.
cubbie
May 13th, 2003, 01:45 PM
Hebrews 1
1In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. 3The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Prewrathterp
May 14th, 2003, 03:21 AM
You've gotten the answer to number 1.
Answer 2 will not be found anywhere in the Bible unless you believe that perfect in the following verse refers to the Bible which many do.
1 Cor 13:9-10 "For we know in part and we prophesy in part;
but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away."
Prewrathterp
M. Hawbaker
May 14th, 2003, 12:42 PM
Zech. 13:2-3:
And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.
And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.
antsinmypants
May 14th, 2003, 10:16 PM
The Bible clearly states that we should not read or participate in astrology (the observing of the times).
Astrology is an ancient heathen practise that leads to disaster. Our lives are not determined by the stars or movement patterns of the planets, our lives are determined by our reactions to situations that God sends our way.
The Bible CLEARLY warns agains the false predictions of astrology.
The Bible also condemns the practises of worshipping the sun, moon and or stars- and the "deities" or rather demons that are associated with them.
In Isaiah God sarcastically condemns Israel for their foolishly following these occult practises.
When it comes down to Magic, Spells, Enchantments, Charming, Scrying, Sorcery, Wizardry and witchcraft (wicca/neopaganism, hedonism, heathens) God's stand-point is very clear.
Research has shown that occultic magic is often fraudulent and a deceitful illusion... Otherwise known as counterfeit miracles. Manny many books have been written on this subject.
In many instances the occult (real) magic or divination are a manifestation of demonic powers, and the results of demon possession.
The power of Satan (Lucifer, the angel of light) and his demons (Also known as angels that have fallen from heaven- known by names, and worshipped by many); is limited compared to God's power, but this does not mean that they cannot harm anyone, kill anyone or do things that are above any human's limiatations. No, believe me- They can do many things that we would be astonished at if we are not true Christians.
To follow the path of magic (magick) is the wrong path, a path that ultimately will lead to your death- physically as well as spiritually. This road leads far away from God, not towards him. Over and over and over God denounces those who cast spells and practise witchcraft and sorcery. The Bible says that anyone who does this is detestable to God.
God even warns of the ultimate punishment.. these things are totally anti-God and not only that, these things are done in rebellion against Him.
Many of the ancient citizens of Ephesus practised the occult arts, and those who became Christians realised the error of their ways and had the first public book-burning known to mankind. The Burned their expensive books of magic (magick), Sorcery, divination etc. no matter what anyone thought of them; they wanted to be closer to God, rather than hindered by the Devil (lucifer).
The Bible even tells of how Paul dealt with a sorcerer and a false prophet who lead people away from God.
Divination, Fortune-telling, Mediums, Spiritism, Necromancy, Spirit Guides, Wizardry, Seances, Channeling and clairvoyance are also strongly advised against and forbidden by the Bible.
God warns that we don't consult these things but that we ask HIM what to do, where to go and how to live. These things are not gifts from God as some heretical teachers would have you to believe. These things are of Satan (lucifer/the devil) and over and over God forbids and advises against having ANYTHING to do with it.
The Bible even provides examples of the folly and failures of those who claimed the ability to predict the future. During the time of Moses up until and thereafter the time of Jesus (Yeshua) it was punishible by death to practise any kind of witchcraft within the Jewish community.
The Bible even condemns us looking for omens of signs to direct our lives. It is called an abomination and foolishness. To do anything other than this is detrimental to your health both spiritual and physical..
Exodus 7:11
Exodus 15:11
Exodus 22:19-20
Deuteronomy 4:19
Deuteronomy 17:2-5
Deuteronomy 18:9-14
Leviticus 19:26, 31
Leviticus 20:1-7, 17, 26-27
1 Samuel 13:1-14
1 Samuel 28
2 Kings 21:3-6
2 Kings 23:24
1 Chronicles 10:13-14
2 Chronicles 7:14
Job 31:26-28
Proverbs 4:23-26
Proverbs 22:6
Isaiah 8:19
Isaiah 19:3
Isaiah 44:25
Isaiah 47:5-15
Jeremiah 8:1-2
Jeremiah 12:2
Jeremiah 14:14
Jeremiah 27:9-10
Ezekiel 13:8, 13, 18, 20
Ezekiel 21:21
Ezekiel 44:23
Daniel 2:1-4, 27
Daniel 4:7
Daniel 5:7-9
Hosea 4:6
Micah 5:12-15
Habakuk 1:7
Zephaniah 1:5
Malachi 3:5-6
Matthew 6:7-8 and 16-18
Matthew 12:33-37
Matthew 18:6
Mark 13:22
John 3:19-20
Acts 8:9-25
Acts 13:9-11
Acts 16:16-39
Acts 17:10-11 (The Bereans searched the scriptures to prove what the missionaries said)
Acts 19:11-20
Romans 6:11-14
Romans 7:1-5
Romans 12:1-2 & 9
Romans 13:12
Romans 14:7-13
Romans 16:19
1 Corinthians 6:9-12, 15, 19-20
1 Corinthians 8:9
1 Corinthians 10:21, 31-33
1 Corinthians 11:1
1 Corinthians 14:33
2 Corinthians 6:14-18
2 Cornithians 11:1 & 14-15
Galatians 5:18-21
Ephesians 5:11-12
Ephesians 6:11-18
Philipians 2:13-16
Philipians 4:8
1 Thessalonians 5:21-22
1 Timothy 4:1 & 12-16
2 Timothy 3:1-7 & 13-17
Hebrews 13:7-9, 20-21
James 1:16, 19-20, 22, 26-27
James 4:4, 7-8
1 Peter 1:13-16
1 Peter 2:9, 13-18 & 22
1 Peter 5:8-11
1 John 2:15-16
1 John 3:8
1 John 5:19
3 John 11
Revelation 9:21
Revelation 21:8
Revelation 22:15-16
"Humanity's most lofy power,
Reason and knowledge pray dispise!
But let the Spirit of all lies,
With works of dazzling magic blind you,
Then absolutely mine, I'll have and bind you!"
-The Devil
Faust-- Written by Goethe
antsinmypants
May 14th, 2003, 10:19 PM
Pagan Revival (A Christian outreach to pagans from former pagans) http://www.spiritwatch.org/pagan.htm
http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/w02.html
A Witch speaks on how to witness (and not to witness) to pagans
http://www.witchvox.com/words/words_1996/e_sharethegospel.html
A former Wiccan Speaks http://www.spiritwatch.org/pagtest1.htm
Witnessing to Wiccans http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/w06.html
Also look for anything at Google on the "Jeremiah Project" or "Caryl Matrisciana"....... they've got stuff you are probably looking for
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