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[falen]

When recieving communion today, I dropped the host. :cry I picked it up and when to my seat. Is that right?

[Proudmommy]

It's a piece of bread. You're fine. :hug If you feel badly about it, take it to Jesus and ask His forgiveness, though personally, I don't think you've done anything sinful. Remember our God, He is not going to beat you up about this. :hug

[falen]

Thank you. I don't know how I was so clumsy. I feel like I desecrated Him. I have been searching online if there is any scripture about it, but I am coming up with nothing.

[haeschen]

The host is not Jesus. We are to remember Him as we partake of communion, how He was broken for us and bled for us on the cross for the forgiveness of sin. We take the unleavened bread by faith, remembering Jesus, our Savior was without sin. He paid the price, so we may be loosed from all sin. So celebrate Jesus and thank him and take the communion without guilt, shame or condemnation.

[scottruff]

If it makes you feel any better I dropped it too back about 40 years ago. I ain't been smote yet. :becky

[falen]

If it makes you feel any better I dropped it too back about 40 years ago. I ain't been smote yet. :becky

actually, that does make me feel better. i am not the only one

[comicnurse]

No human is perfect. We are prone to slips, slides AND drops. :doh Now, if you had kicked the host aside or purposely smashed it, that would be a bit dreadful.
Rest assured, our Heavenly Father knows your heart. :love

Kendra

[Flossie]

Kendra is right, falen. Not to give you a hard time or anything, but what you are panicking about is what Jesus used to give the Jews a blast about....worrying too much about "form and tradition" and not enough about "substance."

What God is looking at is your heart and your faith, not whether you accidently dropped a piece of bread on the floor.

Our God is "bigger" than that. He knows your heart and your spirit, so relax.

:hug

[Rainbo2]

It's a piece of bread:nod. As Haeschen said, we are taking it and remembering Jesus' great sacrifice for us. You didn't actually drop Jesus on the floor.

Now you did make sure to say, God made dirt so it won't hurt, while crossing yourself didn't you?:heh If you didn't you may get floor germs.

[Proudmommy]

It's a piece of bread:nod. As Haeschen said, we are taking it and remembering Jesus' great sacrifice for us. You didn't actually drop Jesus on the floor.

Now you did make sure to say, God made dirt so it won't hurt, while crossing yourself didn't you?:heh If you didn't you may get floor germs.

:pound

[falen]

i couldn't sleep. it poped into my head that i dropped the Host because I am not in the Book of life. i don't know. i am just so tired now

[PlentyGroovy]

falen :hug maybe God is showing you that there is too much focus on the bread and not on what it represents...? It's not what we do, our works, it's all about Him and what He did for us.

[Rev.3:20]

i couldn't sleep. it poped into my head that i dropped the Host because I am not in the Book of life. i don't know. i am just so tired now

Now this is going to sound harsh but the catholic church has created an idol of out receiving communion. But what do you expect the RCC is riddled with false teachings.

Depart from her!

[falen]

nothing is as harsh what is in my mind. i am pretty anonymous here, but i don't think i can bear to speak to my priest about it. least said quicker forgotten???

[PlentyGroovy]

wha...? God sees all, He knows and He can comfort you. You don't need a priest to approach the throne of God. Remember? The veil was torn signifying that God wants a direct personal relationship with us. :thumb:clap

[Proudmommy]

Have you accepted Jesus as your Savior? Then it is satan that putting doubts in your mind. I know, I recently finally was able to open up to a nice christian lady about my own doubts. God has been showing me that I am saved, but it is my relationship with Him that I need to work on. Do not let satan rob you of the joy of your salvation.:hug

Examine your heart, and ask God to reason it out with you. He will show you what you need to know.

Now, dropping that piece of bread did not make you lose your salvation. The Jesus that we know and love, is not up in heaven putting you down to God for dropping that piece of bread. There is only one accuser, and it certainly isn't Him.:hug

[Flossie]

Have you accepted Jesus as your Savior? Then it is satan that putting doubts in your mind. I know, I recently finally was able to open up to a nice christian lady about my own doubts. God has been showing me that I am saved, but it is my relationship with Him that I need to work on. Do not let satan rob you of the joy of your salvation.:hug

Examine your heart, and ask God to reason it out with you. He will show you what you need to know.

Now, dropping that piece of bread did not make you lose your salvation. The Jesus that we know and love, is not up in heaven putting you down to God for dropping that piece of bread. There is only one accuser, and it certainly isn't Him.:hug
Proudmommy, you are SO right, but there is one thing you need to realize. Roman Catholics are brought up on guilt. It's part and parcel of their upbringing, and it's a "demon" to get rid of. They use it beautifully to try and force you to "do" what the hierarchy want you to do to keep you in line.

So, as you've noticed, falen is wracked with guilt because that's the way he was raised. I know, I'm married to an "back-sliding" catholic too, but he still gets caught up in this guilt thing. It's quite amazing.....:sad

[Proudmommy]

Oh I know. I was raised as a catholic, and even though my mom walked away when I was younger, I still deal with guilt about everything. If someone trips ten feet in front of me, I will worry that I did something to cause it. The lady I talked to about my doubts called it hyper-consciousness (or something like that). It is amazing, I really don't remember all that much about my catholic experience, but somehow they still were able to affect me enough, that I will feel guilty about everything, even though I KNOW full well I have no control over most of the stuff I feel guilty about.

[Paidfor]

Falen

You have been given excellent advice here and I am not sure that I can add anything to it. But you are suffering so much that I need to try.

Jesus was nailed to a cross and executed in a very cruel and painful manner. He, who is God, took on Himself all of our sins because He loves us. Knowing this, do you now believe He is going to condemn you for dropping a wafer?

Pray and ask God to forgive you of this, not because you did anything wrong, but you must cleanse your conscience of this incident. If you pray and ask forgiveness, He will hear you and forgive you. He has promised that.

1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.


I will pray for you also.:pray2

[Rainbo2]

i couldn't sleep. it poped into my head that i dropped the Host because I am not in the Book of life. i don't know. i am just so tired now

:hug

You obviously love Jesus very much, or you wouldn't be worried about dropping the host. John 3:16 comes to my mind. For God so loved the world He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.. You are saved! Your name is in the Book of Life:joy I also doubt very, very much that you have committed the only unpardonable sin and blasphemed the Holy Spirit. So I know that you are forgiven.:nod

Rebuke the devil, tell him, out loud that you are a child of the King, that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, and that you are forgiven so he should get lost.


Please know that Jesus knows it was an accident. He knows that you didn't go and drop the Host on purpose. We all know that you didn't throw it onto the floor and do this :getdown on it. So you really did nothing wrong. Try to let it go O.K.? You're forgiven:hug

[RobinB]

My dh was really shaky after having surgery years ago, and up at the railing he sloshed a bit of wine out of the little cup they handed him. The pastor just smiled sympathetically.

[Doxiemom]

Hi Falen,

I would put this in the way big file marked "things catholics think are sins and are not" or, the even bigger file " what everybody thinks the catholic church teaches but really doesn't"

I am openly catholic and most people here know it. Now you do,

Relax. It is not like you took the eucharist and sneeked it home and had a Satanic mass.

Things happen. My bet is that some priests have tripped and split the whole load once or twice.

For a Catholic, communion is the central part of our Sunday worship. Thus the concern for its handling.

[falen]

time does heal, I am letting your reason sink in. And I have searched all over and it does not say a thing about dropping the host is as bad. I still have not been able to sleep, but that is an old story, made worse by this incident. if you all can pray for me in regard to that, I would appreciate it.

[PlentyGroovy]

Praying for your eyes to be opened to the truth about the communion...:pray

[AnyDayNow]

When recieving communion today, I dropped the host. :cry I picked it up and when to my seat. Is that right?

The only reason Jesus gave for the communion was to remember Him. I know that you were doing that because of your concern over this accident. :):

The Real True Body of Jesus Christ was broken for all of us on the Cross. It now Sits at the Right Hand of the Father and we await His Return in that same Body. His Blood was shed at Calvary. For all of us. :nod

[sracer]

time does heal, I am letting your reason sink in. And I have searched all over and it does not say a thing about dropping the host is as bad. I still have not been able to sleep, but that is an old story, made worse by this incident. if you all can pray for me in regard to that, I would appreciate it.
falen, are you Catholic?

[Doxiemom]

falen is not asking if the doctrine of the euchrist is a valid doctrine.

She is concerned that somehow she committed a sin. She , it appears, had a misconception, that , despite it being an accident, she violated Catholic law and was in sin.

It appears she did her search and discovered that she was the one in error. There is no church law about it.

This is what should be discussed. Frankly, I think a new post should be started in the apologetics if Catholic doctrine about holy communion is to be batted around.

Otherwise, it appears that , once again, being "catholic" is equal being not-a-real-christian.

[Doxiemom]

Falen,
to settle your soul, look around and begin a search. Listen to many pastors and many priests. Listen to all kinds of Christians. Most of all, listen to the Holy Spirit.

It may take a while, but you can find peace. You may have to give up something, but you will gain everything. You may stay where you are. Or go somehere else.

Our God is so great that He can manage to Shine His Face in every church every Sunday despite all of mankind's stupidity.

[sracer]

falen is not asking if the doctrine of the euchrist is a valid doctrine.

She is concerned that somehow she committed a sin. She , it appears, had a misconception, that , despite it being an accident, she violated Catholic law and was in sin.

It appears she did her search and discovered that she was the one in error. There is no church law about it.

This is what should be discussed. Frankly, I think a new post should be started in the apologetics if Catholic doctrine about holy communion is to be batted around.

It is important to know whether or not falen is a Catholic before responding.


Otherwise, it appears that , once again, being "catholic" is equal being not-a-real-christian.
No need for the melodramatic statement. That sentiment was not stated nor implied.

[Doxiemom]

Now this is going to sound harsh but the catholic church has created an idol of out receiving communion. But what do you expect the RCC is riddled with false teachings.

Depart from her!

I am not being melodramatic. Kindly read the above quote.

This seemed to be a cry for help , which I felt was in peril of being over-looked in the effort to confront errant doctrine.

But, you are right. It would help to know for sure if Falen was an active Catholic and if she adhered to all of the legalism of that church.

But, did that matter, really, to comfort her in her pain? What anyone thinks "communion" is, it wasn't relative. Accidents are not sin.

Nearly everyone was concerned for her pain. If that was your intent, Sracer, accept my apology.

Otherwise, you may find it interesting to start a new post on the subject. That would be an interesting test of thoughts.

[watchman]

I concur DM.

[falen]

thank you for your concern. I am catholic and have searched on the internet. the catholic sites are schethchy to me, so i tried to search bible verses by meaning. i really came up with nothing there. i think you all tried to clear it up well.i know the catholics don't have it all right, but i don't see any other having all right either, so there i stay. i hope you don't hold it against me.

[Rainbo2]

thank you for your concern. I am catholic and have searched on the internet. the catholic sites are schethchy to me, so i tried to search bible verses by meaning. i really came up with nothing there. i think you all tried to clear it up well.i know the catholics don't have it all right, but i don't see any other having all right either, so there i stay. i hope you don't hold it against me.


I for one don't hold the church you go to against you:hug I think that some are called to stay in the Catholic church and be a light. I stayed for many years before deciding to leave.

I hope you are feeling better about everything today:nod

[watchman]

thank you for your concern. I am catholic and have searched on the internet. the catholic sites are schethchy to me, so i tried to search bible verses by meaning. i really came up with nothing there. i think you all tried to clear it up well.i know the catholics don't have it all right, but i don't see any other having all right either, so there i stay. i hope you don't hold it against me.

Nor do I.

[Flossie]

As long as we believe that Jesus died for our sins on the cross, all the rest is fluff and "tradition". Jesus himself said all we had to do is "believe in him" to be saved.

Catholic, Baptist, Pentacostal, Presbyterian, United....you name it. It doesn't matter who goes to what church. If they believe that Jesus died for them, then they are saved.

I love ALL my brothers and sisters in Christ. I will feel very privileged to meet all of you in the Rapture, and I don't really care if you were Catholic, Baptist, or pink with purple polka dots .....

:group

[comicnurse]

As long as we believe that Jesus died for our sins on the cross, all the rest is fluff and "tradition". Jesus himself said all we had to do is "believe in him" to be saved.

Catholic, Baptist, Pentacostal, Presbyterian, United....you name it. It doesn't matter who goes to what church. If they believe that Jesus died for them, then they are saved.

I love ALL my brothers and sisters in Christ. I will feel very privileged to meet all of you in the Rapture, and I don't really care if you were Catholic, Baptist, or pink with purple polka dots .....

:group

I agree, Flossie. I have friends from all kinds of denominations. :D:

[falen]

time is healing . I am dreading church tomorrow though :hug to you all.

[scottruff]

time is healing . I am dreading church tomorrow though :hug to you all.One day, when I was a freshman in high school, I realized that I did not make a big deal or laugh at someone who dropped or broke something. That was the day that I realized that nobody cared when I dropped something. Really! Accidents are accidents even if it's dropping of the host. Go to church and feel good about it.

[watchman]

time is healing . I am dreading church tomorrow though :hug to you all.

Recognize the "host" is simply a representation of the true sacrifice, and that our sin which "dropped" Messiah, was far more the focus of what it means for our being "picked up" from the sin that "dropped" us.

G-d knows your heart. If you were to stand in His presence, would your dropping the host in anyway cause Him to be displeased with you?

If not then let it go, for you would better spend your time worshiping and embracing G-d's love for you in order that you could share that with others.

I will not minimize this concern you have, for in the Synagogue, if we drop the Torah scroll, the entire congregation is to fast for forty days. (I have never seen one dropped). Although it is really only the person who does the dropping to be the one to fast, we as a community see it as a calamity that involves us all, because we received the Torah as a community, and are therefore bound to it and by it, and it to us.

But the delight or rejoicing in the Torah (Simchat Torah) is more important than it being dropped.

So rejoice int the redemption and the joy of Salvation and not in the worry of the symbol being dropped.

Messiah would simply gaze upon you and have compassion for your childlike concern and send you on your way. Since it is He that you should be concerned with, do no more to concern yourself with it.

[Doxiemom]

time is healing . I am dreading church tomorrow though :hug to you all.

Falen, this is just so sad to read.

Do you think the Father is dreading to see you at Mass this Sunday? or, do you think He will delight in your worship of Him ?

Why do you worry so? Do you not know that your Father in Heaven loves you very much?

Mass is a celebration. so Celebrate, with a capitol C. Be of good cheer.

[Wildcat81]

I don't know how much, if any, this might help, but I once saw a clip from a wedding video (on America's Funniest Home Videos, I think), where the priest was administering communion to the bride and groom. When he got to the bride, he not only dropped the host, but dropped it down her wedding gown. He looked a bit perturbed (I imagine there were only two host on the tray), but didn't look as though he felt he had done something terribly wrong.

Either way, it was an accident. God understands accidents. I accidentally knocked my two-year-old down a couple of days ago. Neither he, nor my wife, nor (I assume) God looks on that incident as they would if I had knocked him down on purpose. Intentionality matters a great deal. It's not as though you threw the host to the ground and spat on it, or anything ridiculous like that. You just had a minor bout of clumsiness at an inopportune moment. It happens to the best of us.

[Acheron]

I almost dropped the cup of wine as I was so nervous from the people behind me trying to get through... half the time I feel like I'm in a check-out line and the people behind me are impatiently waiting for me to finish.