help real quick

[Cocoa1080]

I need the verse that says no thieve or adulator will go to heaven.. i can't find it :doh

[Gomer Pyle]

Try Rev 22:14,15

[Paidfor]

1Cr 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,* nor sodomites,
1Cr 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
1Cr 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

[River Boy]

I need the verse that says no thieve or adulator will go to heaven.. i can't find it :doh

Here's probablly what your looking for. But read it in context with 6:11.

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Read this too and its supporting scripture.
1Co 5:5 To deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

[Cocoa1080]

thanks guys i was looking all over for that, also real quick anyone have a verse that says God will judge all? I am trying to get my bible ready for witnessing

[whiplash]

Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.
Rom 5:18

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Hbr 9:27

To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Jud 1:15

[Cocoa1080]

danke schon :D: , thank you so much

[Saint Louis]

thanks guys i was looking all over for that, also real quick anyone have a verse that says God will judge all? I am trying to get my bible ready for witnessing

Another good one:

Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead. (Acts 17:30-31).

Also read Psalm 96.

[Timothy]

This is a good one, as no one can escape the last parameter:

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[Waiting2go]

This topic and these verses have really been heavy on my heart for a while now. I realize that when we are saved our sins are forgiven. But we all still continue to sin even though we try not to. And even after we are saved, we have told even "little white lies", for what we feel are for good reasons at times. But, just as stealing a penny is the same as stealing a million dollars in God's eyes, the same goes for different degrees of lieing.

I worry too, about my children who lie about things even though they know it is wrong and 2 of my children are saved (one is still too young). Having said that, I've been told by the boys' doctor, that people with Bi-Polar have more of a tendency to lie about things (I'm not saying that that would be the case for everyone with Bi-Polar, and not accusing as such - please know and believe it is not my intent to offend anyone on the board). I also know someone who claims to be saved (of course, one never truley knows someone else's heart) and lies ALL the time about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING even about things that they have no reason to lie about or benefit from.

So I guess my question to you guys is, where do think Christians who tell lies (small or big), steal something (no matter what the value), have thoughts we shouldn't have, etc. stand on this with God? The scriptures say all who do these things will go to Hell. And if you break one commandment, you have broken them all. I understand repentance, but those scriptures scare me to death as we all slip up (and sometimes feel we are even justified as in the "little white lie", to spare someone's feelings, which I admit I have been guilty of).

I'm not sure if I am explaining myself and my question very well. Just hoping for other's interpretation and scriptures regarding Christians falling in this area. I'm especially concerned about the person I know who lies all the time as I have talked to them about this to no avail. They even lie about ever lieing even when you have proof.

Thanks in advance for any input and help.

[Timothy]

...I realize that when we are saved our sins are forgiven. But we all still continue to sin even though we try not to...

The Corinthians are described as "saints" as well as "carnal." So how could someone be simultaneously described as both? The key is recognizing the difference between someone's position and practice. Scofield called this difference standing and state.

The position or standing of the believer is based on who they are in Christ, and what Christ accomplished on the cross. It is who you are in or through Christ, and unchangeable. When someone is saved, over thirty different things happen that are only learned about through scripture. For example, when someone is saved, they become positionally "dead to sin," "free from sin," "sanctified", etc.

So while the "standing" of the believer is that they are positionally "dead to sin", "free from sin," etc., that is not obviously the case practically speaking. The practical part is our state, our Christian life, the post-salvation experience of the believer. While we are positionally "dead to sin" (i.e. who we are), the believer is still capable of and still does sin in practice (i.e. what you do). The bema judgement concerns what a saint does with their post-salvation life.

Hope this helps...

[Waiting2go]

The Corinthians are described as "saints" as well as "carnal." So how could someone be simultaneously described as both? The key is recognizing the difference between someone's position and practice. Scofield called this difference standing and state.

The position or standing of the believer is based on who they are in Christ, and what Christ accomplished on the cross. It is who you are in or through Christ, and unchangeable. When someone is saved, over thirty different things happen that are only learned about through scripture. For example, when someone is saved, they become positionally "dead to sin," "free from sin," "sanctified", etc.

So while the "standing" of the believer is that they are positionally "dead to sin", "free from sin," etc., that is not obviously the case practically speaking. The practical part is our state, our Christian life, the post-salvation experience of the believer. While we are positionally "dead to sin" (i.e. who we are), the believer is still capable of and still does sin in practice (i.e. what you do). The bema judgement concerns what a saint does with their post-salvation life.
Hope this helps...

I understand the bema judgement, but I guess my question is......Could a Christian who lies or has stolen, etc. after being saved, still be sent to Hell?

[Timothy]

I understand the bema judgement, but I guess my question is......Could a Christian who lies or has stolen, etc. after being saved, still be sent to Hell?

No.

For similar discussions, see these:

Rebuttal: "Eternal Security vs. Responsibility"
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=173860

All of Your Sin is NOT Forgiven!
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=196907

[Cocoa1080]

I understand the bema judgement, but I guess my question is......Could a Christian who lies or has stolen, etc. after being saved, still be sent to Hell?

I had no idea the power of the cross was so weak! haha, sure we are all going to sin, and even if you get cut off while driving and get mad at the driver by God's standards you just committed murder in the heart. So his standards are pretty high, That is why we need Jesus he forgives us of all sins, including future.. now the goal is to sin less and less (with God's help) which also helps to keep you humble :D:

Jesus came to free us from the law.. but as Paul says

"Rom 3:31 Does this mean that by this faith we do away with the Law? No, not at all; instead, we uphold the Law. "

"Rom 3:28 We see that people are acceptable to God because they have faith, and not because they obey the Law. "

Rom 4:5 But you cannot make God accept you because of something you do. God accepts sinners only because they have faith in him.

"Rom 6:15 What does all this mean? Does it mean we are free to sin, because we are ruled by God's wonderful kindness and not by the Law? Certainly not!
Rom 6:16 Don't you know that you are slaves of anyone you obey? You can be slaves of sin and die, or you can be obedient slaves of God and be acceptable to him.
Rom 6:17 You used to be slaves of sin. But I thank God that with all your heart you obeyed the teaching you received from me.
Rom 6:18 Now you are set free from sin and are slaves who please God. "


Rom 6:1 What should we say? Should we keep on sinning, so that God's wonderful kindness will show up even better?
Rom 6:2 No, we should not! If we are dead to sin, how can we go on sinning?
Rom 6:12 Don't let sin rule your body. After all, your body is bound to die, so don't obey its desires

read Romans, and Romans chapter 6 is about backsliding

Luke 10:20
However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.

Oh also know you CANNOT loose your salvation... now if you or someone you know is "saved" but keeps on sinning then you might have to ask them if they are truly saved

[Waiting2go]

No.

For similar discussions, see these:

Rebuttal: "Eternal Security vs. Responsibility"
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=173860

All of Your Sin is NOT Forgiven!
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=196907

First, I would like to thank you very much for those 2 links. I read them and it helped so much. I never used to question or be confused on a lot of issues, such as this one, until I came to RR. Don't get me wrong......I love RR and have learned so much from everyone. And I am forever more learning. I thank God all the time for directing me to RR and have told many people about it. But, sometimes issues come up and interpretations are given and I start to question things. Sometimes that is good and sometimes, not so good. I have ALWAYS believed OSAS, but again, after reading some things on here I would question if I was right or not. After reading those links, I am assured that I was right in my belief of OSAS, and for that I am very grateful. I will keep praying for my friend and would appreciate other's prayers as well.