I am so angry and hurt at the same time

[andy]

My wife and I are going out of town this weekend so we went out to eat. We ran into a pastor and his family who we used to worship with.

He told me he had been run off from his church. When I asked why, he told me.

His church was very involved with a youth program and they were having 70 or more kids involved in the fellowship. Salvation's were happening and things were going well until someone invited several black children to attend.

The old guard at this church took offense and said the black kids could not take part in this fellowship. The pastor, my friend, did not back down and he finally left the pastor's position.

I feel sick to my stomach. I am so mad and sick over this. I live in N.E. Louisiana and we are backwards in some ways, but this type of behavior of the old guard is a slap in the face of Christ. How dare they think that anyone is unworthy to attend their fellowship.

Those people should fall on their face and beg forgiveness for this stupid act of prejudice. I am by no means perfect, but this just brings out a anger in me that I thought I had left behind years ago.

Please pray for this pastor and his family. I pray that God bless him for his stand against bigotry and prejudice and for the souls of those precious children.

I am just sick at heart.:(: :mad

[Shulamite]

:(: I can't believe it!

I hate prejudice. Hate it....
The Lord made each and every person. I stand with you in this, Andy. I understand your anger and hurt.

Thanks for sharing :(:

[Crusader]

That is not very Christ-like is it? It seems the wrong man left the church. However, many churches are full of false believers doing harm like this, or just believers with gross sin problems. True believers should confront that behavior with the word of God.

[Shulamite]

That is not very Christ-like is it? It seems the wrong man left the church. However, many churches are full of false believers doing harm like this, or just believers with gross sin problems. True believers should confront that behavior with the word of God.

:nod

Amen

It has always puzzled me how anyone can look at another person that the Lord created and formed and hate them just because their skin color is different!!!
Each person started in His own heart and thoughts before He formed them!
I just don't get it. I really don't.

[Leuretha]

:cry :cry :cry :cry

[Lexie]

This church should be reported. Your old pastor should be able to get his job back. Which church is it, in Louisiana, Id like to send an email, to the board of directors, asking them to apologize, to the familes of those children.

[Kem]

Oh my, how can these folks face the Lord when they pray. How awful to have gotten in the way of people coming to learn of Jesus love. Praying that God will open their blind eyes to the fact that God died for these youngsters as well as them.

[My Abba's Child]

Reminds me of the treatment of Ghandi when he came to church to find out how to be a Christian. He was of a lower caste than the "deacon" at the door and was told that if he didn't leave, he'd be pushed down the stairs. Look up some of Ghandi's quotes about Christ, Christians and Christianity and prepare to be TICKED! :mad

I would surely HATE to be in these folks' shoes when they have to answer for their words and deeds! :fear

In His love,

[Lexie]

Reminds me of the treatment of Ghandi when he came to church to find out how to be a Christian. He was of a lower caste than the "deacon" at the door and was told that if he didn't leave, he'd be pushed down the stairs. Look up some of Ghandi's quotes about Christ, Christians and Christianity and prepare to be TICKED! :mad

I would surely HATE to be in these folks' shoes when they have to answer for their words and deeds! :fear

In His love,

During World War II, Gandhi penned an open letter to the British people, urging them to surrender to the Nazis. Later, when the extent of the holocaust was known, he criticized Jews who had tried to escape or fight for their lives as they did in Warsaw and Treblinka. “The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife,” he said. “They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.” “Collective suicide,” he told his biographer, “would have been heroism.”

[My Abba's Child]

During World War II, Gandhi penned an open letter to the British people, urging them to surrender to the Nazis. Later, when the extent of the holocaust was known, he criticized Jews who had tried to escape or fight for their lives as they did in Warsaw and Treblinka. “The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife,” he said. “They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.” “Collective suicide,” he told his biographer, “would have been heroism.”

I understand that Ghandi was wrong in his thinking and wrong in many areas of his life... he was unsaved, what can we expect. An unsaved person is going to have no love for the Jews. HOWEVER, when he tried to come to find that salvation so that Jesus could change his heart, his mind and his life, he was denied it, threatened to be pushed down the stairs, etc...

I'm not defending Ghandi, I'm not one of those great admirers of his that many people are... I AM, however, offended by the thought that someone would come seeking Christ and not only not be allowed it, but actually threatened bodily harm if he sought further.

In His love,

[markofthebest]

That is unbelieveable.

My church is 50/50 black/white....with a few asians and hispanics.

How do these "christians" think heaven will look anyway?

Grrrr......

[joy4Him2day]

:cry

*sigh*
I just don't know what the christian way to act is to these people......
I want to treat them the same way they treated others........my church fired a youth pastor because he wasn't "fitting in"......:doh what has happened to the power of Love? mouth is moving, heart is absent, I guess.......

[PlentyGroovy]

My wife and I are going out of town this weekend so we went out to eat. We ran into a pastor and his family who we used to worship with.

He told me he had been run off from his church. When I asked why, he told me.

His church was very involved with a youth program and they were having 70 or more kids involved in the fellowship. Salvation's were happening and things were going well until someone invited several black children to attend.

The old guard at this church took offense and said the black kids could not take part in this fellowship. The pastor, my friend, did not back down and he finally left the pastor's position.

I feel sick to my stomach. I am so mad and sick over this. I live in N.E. Louisiana and we are backwards in some ways, but this type of behavior of the old guard is a slap in the face of Christ. How dare they think that anyone is unworthy to attend their fellowship.

Those people should fall on their face and beg forgiveness for this stupid act of prejudice. I am by no means perfect, but this just brings out a anger in me that I thought I had left behind years ago.

Please pray for this pastor and his family. I pray that God bless him for his stand against bigotry and prejudice and for the souls of those precious children.

I am just sick at heart.:(: :mad

I would go confirm this with the "old guard". I would find out from them exactly what was the problem and if what the pastor told you is true, have them show you scriptually why they felt led to react in this way. Don't let this go by without trying to set things right.

[ehbowen]

I would go confirm this with the "old guard". I would find out from them exactly what was the problem and if what the pastor told you is true, have them show you scriptually why they felt led to react in this way. Don't let this go by without trying to set things right.

That's good advice. Hear from both sides. Proverbs 18:17.

[Lexie]

I understand that Ghandi was wrong in his thinking and wrong in many areas of his life... he was unsaved, what can we expect. An unsaved person is going to have no love for the Jews. HOWEVER, when he tried to come to find that salvation so that Jesus could change his heart, his mind and his life, he was denied it, threatened to be pushed down the stairs, etc...

I'm not defending Ghandi, I'm not one of those great admirers of his that many people are... I AM, however, offended by the thought that someone would come seeking Christ and not only not be allowed it, but actually threatened bodily harm if he sought further.

In His love,

My Abba's child,

Did Gandhi write this account? I have read some of Gandhi's, own accounts, he spent a lot of time, with many Christians, in Africa, who were respectful, and kind to him. Much of the UN emergent church, follow Gandhi's, anti-Zionism, teachings. He did not believe God, was putting the Jew's, back in their land. Gandhi telling Jew's, to throw their children off of mountains, and commit suicide, sounds like what satan, asked Jesus, to do. He felt he could conquer his flesh, and attain godhood, he slept naked, with naked young girls, to see if he had attained, his goals. He also wrote about some Africans, he wasn't to fond of.. He got in the middle of the Muslims and Indians, who were killing each other. India has a lot of demonic oppression, from the Kundilini, yoga, many sex gods.


Max Mullers Aryan, teachings, and other thoughts, are an interesting read, it is what a lot Christianity, has turned into today. He believed, Christianity, had more in common with Hindu earth worship god's, and Muslims, then with the Jewish roots, we have.


Gandhi's reading of Max Muller’s India—What Can It Teach Us? and a translation of the Upanishads published by the Theosophical Society deepened Gandhi’s appreciation for his own Hindu faith: “All this enhanced my regard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Müller



Gandhi recalls that although he could appreciate the devoutness of the Christians, it was impossible for him to believe that he could attain salvation only by becoming a Christian. Gandhi could not believe that Jesus was “the only incarnate son of God, and that only he who believed in him would have everlasting life.” He writes, “If God could have sons, all of us were His sons



"I could accept Jesus as a martyr, an embodiment of sacrifice, and a divine teacher, but not as the most perfect man ever born. His death on the Cross was a great example to the world, but that there was anything like a mysterious or miraculous virtue in it my heart could not accept. The pious lives of Christians did not give me anything that the lives of men of other faiths had failed to give" (113).