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Lexie
April 5th, 2007, 02:51 PM
What's the deal, with the church, killing Jew's, calling them names, taking their possessions, forcing them to baptized, torture, blaming them for killing Jesus?

Imo I do not see how a person, can be saved, if they don't understand, we all put Jesus, on the cross, he bore our sins. Constantine, called the Jew's Christ killers, why did they do that? Would any of this make Israel, envious of them? :confused



In this homily, Melito formulated the charge of deicide, namely that Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus. He proclaimed that "God has been murdered; the king of Israel has been slain by an Israelite hand." His preaching would later inspire pogroms against the Jews.

Eusebius' Life of Constantine, Book 3 chapter 18 records Constantine the Great as writing: "... it appeared an unworthy thing that in the celebration of this most holy feast we should follow the practice of the Jews, who have impiously defiled their hands with enormous sin, and are, therefore, deservedly afflicted with blindness of soul. ... Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd; for we have received from our Saviour a different way." Theodoret's Ecclesiastical History 1.9 records The Epistle of the Emperor Constantine, concerning the matters transacted at the Council, addressed to those Bishops who were not present: "It was, in the first place, declared improper to follow the custom of the Jews in the celebration of this holy festival, because, their hands having been stained with crime, the minds of these wretched men are necessarily blinded. ... Let us, then, have nothing in common with the Jews, who are our adversaries. ... avoiding all contact with that evil way. ... who, after having compassed the death of the Lord, being out of their minds, are guided not by sound reason, but by an unrestrained passion, wherever their innate madness carries them. ... a people so utterly depraved. ... Therefore, this irregularity must be corrected, in order that we may no more have any thing in common with those parricides and the murderers of our Lord. ... no single point in common with the perjury of the Jews."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melito_of_Sardis

Gamefan1980
April 5th, 2007, 03:03 PM
It has to be nothing more than a work of Satan. Its a hatred that goes beyond the physical. The Jews wrote the entire bible and are God's chosen people. I believe that is enough for Satan to hate.

Robbinson
April 5th, 2007, 09:14 PM
What's the deal, with the church, killing Jew's, calling them names, taking their possessions, forcing them to baptized, torture, blaming them for killing Jesus?

Imo I do not see how a person, can be saved, if they don't understand, we all put Jesus, on the cross, he bore our sins. Constantine, called the Jew's Christ killers, why did they do that? Would any of this make Israel, envious of them? :confused



In this homily, Melito formulated the charge of deicide, namely that Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus. He proclaimed that "God has been murdered; the king of Israel has been slain by an Israelite hand." His preaching would later inspire pogroms against the Jews.

Eusebius' Life of Constantine, Book 3 chapter 18 records Constantine the Great as writing: "... it appeared an unworthy thing that in the celebration of this most holy feast we should follow the practice of the Jews, who have impiously defiled their hands with enormous sin, and are, therefore, deservedly afflicted with blindness of soul. ... Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd; for we have received from our Saviour a different way." Theodoret's Ecclesiastical History 1.9 records The Epistle of the Emperor Constantine, concerning the matters transacted at the Council, addressed to those Bishops who were not present: "It was, in the first place, declared improper to follow the custom of the Jews in the celebration of this holy festival, because, their hands having been stained with crime, the minds of these wretched men are necessarily blinded. ... Let us, then, have nothing in common with the Jews, who are our adversaries. ... avoiding all contact with that evil way. ... who, after having compassed the death of the Lord, being out of their minds, are guided not by sound reason, but by an unrestrained passion, wherever their innate madness carries them. ... a people so utterly depraved. ... Therefore, this irregularity must be corrected, in order that we may no more have any thing in common with those parricides and the murderers of our Lord. ... no single point in common with the perjury of the Jews."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melito_of_Sardis

Since works is evidence of our faith, I don't think any of those perpetrators were saved - just part of the larger body of "christiondom" who are not actually "Chrisitans". The bible is clear that God will bless those who bless Israel, and curse those who curse Israel". IMO, you can't be saved, and also be an antisemite - that is like hating the Lord (who was and is Jewish).

Regards