question about "the wrath to come"

[Kem]

I have always been pre-trib so this question is not to refute that view. My question is in 1 Thess 1:10, can we be sure that "the wrath to come" definitely refers to the trib. or might it possibly refer to eternal punishment. Thanks for your answers.

[WhiteH2OWoman]

Well, the sixth seal of Revelation mentions "wrath" twice, including "wrath of the Lamb":

Rev 6:16: And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb. 17: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

To me, this says that Jesus' wrath certainly begins with the 6th seal...if not earlier, since Jesus is the one who breaks the seals open on the scroll.

[Kem]

Well I was kind of hoping that someone could tell me that that Greek word was never used to refer to eternal punishment ......only for the final 7 year trib....or something like that.

[Ponderin]

Well I was kind of hoping that someone could tell me that that Greek word was never used to refer to eternal punishment ......only for the final 7 year trib....or something like that.

Hi Kem have you tried looking it up at studylight.org?



Original Word Word Origin (http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3709)
o¹rgh/ from (3713)
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Orge or-gay'
Parts of Speech TDNT
Noun Feminine 5:382,716
Definition
anger, the natural disposition, temper, character
movement or agitation of the soul, impulse, desire, any violent emotion, but esp. anger
anger, wrath, indignation
anger exhibited in punishment, hence used for punishment itself
of punishments inflicted by magistrates

Translated Words
KJV (36) - anger, 3; indignation, 1; vengeance, 1; wrath, 31;
NAS (36) - anger, 6; wrath, 30;



It is the same word use in Matthew 3.






C H Spurgeon, considered the prince of preachers by many . . . Has a sermon on this passage.

We will first consider the question of John the Baptist: “When he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?” [Matthew 3:7]


He must have been greatly taken aback when John talked to him about the wrath of God, and plainly told him that that wrath was as much for him as for others. Those phylacteries and the broad borders of his robe, of which he was so proud, would not screen him from the anger of God against injustice and transgression; but just like any common sinner, he would need to “flee from the coming wrath.”





Those Pharisees did not live to see the great trib did they. Yet they were warned to flee from coming wrath.