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Rainbo2
June 11th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Ok, I'm curious, I pray to Jesus all the time and no one else, but I very seldom remember to say, at the end, in Jesus' name, is it really necessary to say that? I grew up catholic and at least in the churches I attended they never said that, and at home I wasn't taught to pray that way either. I'm not saying that all catholic churches do this, nor do I want to start a debate on Catholicism, so please don't think that I do, I'm just saying why it is that I have a hard time remembering to pray in Jesus name.
RobinB
June 11th, 2006, 10:41 AM
I never did that growing up Catholic, either, but have gotten in the habit because my dh always does. He was raised Lutheran.
Mommy2KandM
June 11th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Jhn 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Jhn 16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
Jhn 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do [it].
Jhn 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Jhn 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give [it] you.
Jhn 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
I believe these scriptures are an example of why many pray "in Jesus name, amen" at the end of prayers. I usually close that way in some form, not always though. I guess it was how I had been taught to pray since I was young.
We have accesses to the thrown room of God the Father because of Jesus. It is with the badge of Jesus that we can boldly enter in. It is because of Jesus and His name that we wear, that the Holy of Holies is now not in a temple somewhere for few to enter into. But right inside of us.
Hootmon
June 11th, 2006, 10:49 AM
The phrase 'in Jesus' name' is equivalnts to saying 'with Jesus' authority'.
In other words, when you say it, you are presenting yourself before God as one acting on Jesus' behalf.
We have accesses to the throne room of God the Father because of Jesus. It is with the badge of Jesus that we can boldly enter in. It is because of Jesus and His name that we wear, that the Holy of Holies is now not in a temple somewhere for few to enter into. But right inside of us.:nod
Rainbo2
June 11th, 2006, 10:56 AM
I agree and know everything y'all have mentioned, I know that Jesus is the only mediator between us and God, and that it is through Him that we come before God, and that is why we pray in Jesus' name. I'm just wondering if it is necessary to say the words.
I do try to remember to say in Jesus name but if I am tired, upset about something, ect. I tend to not remember.
sracer
June 11th, 2006, 11:15 AM
I agree and know everything y'all have mentioned, I know that Jesus is the only mediator between us and God, and that it is through Him that we come before God, and that is why we pray in Jesus' name. I'm just wondering if it is necessary to say the words.
I do try to remember to say in Jesus name but if I am tired, upset about something, ect. I tend to not remember.
I too grew up Catholic and did not pray "in Jesus Name". But now that I'm out of the Catholic church, I understand the importance and the necessity of praying in Jesus' Name.
We SHOULD always pray in Jesus Name... it keeps us mindful of exactly why we are able to come to the Father in prayer. It also makes it clear to all, by whose authority we pray.
But don't sweat it if you occasionally forget. Just make sure you say 2 Hail Mary's and an Our Father when you do. :twitch Just kidding (inside Catholic joke) :lol
Rainbo2
June 11th, 2006, 11:21 AM
But don't sweat it if you occasionally forget. Just make sure you say 2 Hail Mary's and an Our Father when you do. :twitch Just kidding (inside Catholic joke) :lol
Oh, OK cool, no Apostles Creed, so it mustn't be that big of a sin!:heh
sealed
June 11th, 2006, 11:38 AM
my dh (Catholic) says "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" before and after each prayer. Isn't this the same?
Rainbo2
June 11th, 2006, 11:48 AM
my dh (Catholic) says "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" before and after each prayer. Isn't this the same?
Good question! I'm really not sure. I know from studying the bible that, The Father (God) cannot be approached except through Jesus, who cleanses us from our sins. The Son (Jesus) is our savior, mediator, redeemer, it is only through Him that we can approach the Father. The Holy Spirit, is our comforter, counsoler and guide, but I cannot remember reading that we are to pray to Him, I could be wrong though.
RobinB
June 11th, 2006, 12:15 PM
But don't sweat it if you occasionally forget. Just make sure you say 2 Hail Mary's and an Our Father when you do. :twitch Just kidding (inside Catholic joke) :lol
:rofl
BigJer
June 11th, 2006, 03:43 PM
There is nothing magical or mystical about the name of Jesus. He is our savior and our friend and He has opened the door for us to ask of God in His name. It is not work that causes us to ask "in Jesus Name", it s requited love that does it.
Honestly, the fact that you are feeling a little 'bothered' by this is simply because God is drawing you to a closer walk with Him. Take it for what it is, a gentle reminder of the God you worship and a loving point of His relationship with you. I suspect that you will find yourself "forgetting" to end with Jesus Name happening less and less from now on. God is good...all the time.
Also, maybe try opening your pray with Jesus name. We do that in our Bible study often...
BHiles
June 11th, 2006, 03:58 PM
Saying "in Jesus Name" is not what asking in Jesus name means.
Barty
June 11th, 2006, 04:01 PM
Isn't praying to Jesus just the same as ending the prayer in his name? So for example, "Lord Jesus....*prayer etc* As long as your praying to Jesus right?
AnotherOldGuy
June 11th, 2006, 04:11 PM
It's like in the old cop shows - "Open up in the name of the law".
We proclaim that Jesus has given us the right and authority to go to the Father with our requests.
Rainbo2
June 11th, 2006, 06:45 PM
Isn't praying to Jesus just the same as ending the prayer in his name? So for example, "Lord Jesus....*prayer etc* As long as your praying to Jesus right?
:nod This is basically what has me confused. I always pray to Jesus, so when ending my prayer saying in Jesus name, it seems like ending a conversation bye Barty that I am talking to.... Which is another reason I have trouble remembering to end like that.
Rainbo2
June 11th, 2006, 06:47 PM
It's like in the old cop shows - "Open up in the name of the law".
We proclaim that Jesus has given us the right and authority to go to the Father with our requests.
Well I could try praying directly to God the Father. Then I would probably be more likely to remember to say in Jesus name. I nearly always pray to Jesus.
WalkingInFaith
June 11th, 2006, 06:57 PM
Well I could try praying directly to God the Father. Then I would probably be more likely to remember to say in Jesus name. I nearly always pray to Jesus.
Even in Jesus' ministry he said to pray "Our Father who art in Heaven". So, I was under the impression that you always pray to the father. I don't pray to Jesus but in his name. I end every prayer, In Jesus' name.
Rainbo2
June 11th, 2006, 07:03 PM
Even in Jesus' ministry he said to pray "Our Father who art in Heaven". So, I was under the impression that you always pray to the father. I don't pray to Jesus but in his name. I end every prayer, In Jesus' name.
I get caught by "There is one mediator between God and man the christ Jesus." I guess it could be worse, I grew up being told it was alright to pray to the saints and Mary:doh
WalkingInFaith
June 11th, 2006, 07:18 PM
It easy to get confused when there are so many different things being taught today. There are scriptures that say there is only one advocate with the father and that is Jesus. Which is why we pray in Jesus' name. I hope I'm not confusing you.
Rainbo2
June 11th, 2006, 07:31 PM
It easy to get confused when there are so many different things being taught today. There are scriptures that say there is only one advocate with the father and that is Jesus. Which is why we pray in Jesus' name. I hope I'm not confusing you.
No not at all! In truth, I know that I can't go wrong praying to God in Jesus name, since it is biblically sound. Some of the other stuff that is taught I know is so off base from what the bible actually teaches it is unrecognisable.
kristine
June 11th, 2006, 07:53 PM
Like others, I just pray directly to God and end my prayer, "in Jesus' name."
WalkingInFaith
June 11th, 2006, 08:05 PM
No not at all! In truth, I know that I can't go wrong praying to God in Jesus name, since it is biblically sound. Some of the other stuff that is taught I know is so off base from what the bible actually teaches it is unrecognisable.
That's how I test most things is to compare it with scripture. That way you know you can't go wrong because the Lord wouldn't lead you in the wrong direction. :):
DMac
June 11th, 2006, 08:23 PM
Saying "in Jesus Name" is not what asking in Jesus name means.
Can you elaborate?
ub4war
June 12th, 2006, 07:39 AM
Ok, I'm curious, I pray to Jesus all the time and no one else, but I very seldom remember to say, at the end, in Jesus' name, is it really necessary to say that? I grew up catholic and at least in the churches I attended they never said that, and at home I wasn't taught to pray that way either. I'm not saying that all catholic churches do this, nor do I want to start a debate on Catholicism, so please don't think that I do, I'm just saying why it is that I have a hard time remembering to pray in Jesus name.
i use to make the same mistake-----examine
Math 19:17-22
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Jesus teaches us to pray to our father ----not Jesus----and we pray and ask in Jesus name the things we pray to God for
aftwine
June 12th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Everytime I pray I start off by saying
Dear Father ...(prayer)... and then end with in Jesus name I pray, Amen.
SnoDog
June 12th, 2006, 01:37 PM
There is nothing wrong with praying directly to Jesus. Stephen prayed to Jesus right before he died.
Laura-bell
June 12th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Ok, I'm curious, I pray to Jesus all the time and no one else, but I very seldom remember to say, at the end, in Jesus' name, is it really necessary to say that? I grew up catholic and at least in the churches I attended they never said that, and at home I wasn't taught to pray that way either. I'm not saying that all catholic churches do this, nor do I want to start a debate on Catholicism, so please don't think that I do, I'm just saying why it is that I have a hard time remembering to pray in Jesus name.
No, it's not necessary to say in Jesus' name all the time. In Jesus' name actually means praying in God's will as Jesus always did the Father's will. That is why when we pray, we are to pray in accordance with His will, but that doesn't mean we always do, and as long as we are born again, we are in Jesus (hidden in Christ) and we acknowledge Him as Lord and Saviour, we are praying in His name. But if we ask anything in accordance with His will it will be done for us. Or if we ask anything in His name it will be done for us. Just two ways the scriptures put it.
I hope I made sense. Mind you, we can ask for things without it being in accordance with His will and it won't be done for us. However, I don't recommend casting out demons without declaring the name of Jesus!!:thumb ;):
ub4war
June 12th, 2006, 09:40 PM
There is nothing wrong with praying directly to Jesus. Stephen prayed to Jesus right before he died.
i did not know that---where in scripture is it---and now i am confused
SnoDog
June 12th, 2006, 10:20 PM
i did not know that---where in scripture is it---and now i am confused
Acts 7.59
BHiles
June 13th, 2006, 01:21 AM
No, it's not necessary to say in Jesus' name all the time. In Jesus' name actually means praying in God's will as Jesus always did the Father's will. That is why when we pray, we are to pray in accordance with His will, but that doesn't mean we always do, and as long as we are born again, we are in Jesus (hidden in Christ) and we acknowledge Him as Lord and Saviour, we are praying in His name. But if we ask anything in accordance with His will it will be done for us. Or if we ask anything in His name it will be done for us. Just two ways the scriptures put it.
I hope I made sense. Mind you, we can ask for things without it being in accordance with His will and it won't be done for us. However, I don't recommend casting out demons without declaring the name of Jesus!!:thumb ;):
ding ding ding. X gets the square.
James 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
BHiles
June 13th, 2006, 01:24 AM
;):
AnotherOldGuy
June 13th, 2006, 02:22 AM
In Jesus' name actually means praying in God's will as Jesus always did the Father's will. That is why when we pray, we are to pray in accordance with His will, but that doesn't mean we always do, and as long as we are born again, we are in Jesus (hidden in Christ) and we acknowledge Him as Lord and Saviour, we are praying in His name.
Ummmm - no. You're mixing two different ideas.
"In the name" acknowledges authority.
(John 5:43) "I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.
(John 14:13) "And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
(John 16:23) "And in that day you will ask Me nothing. Most assuredly, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in My name He will give you.
(John 16:24) "Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.
(Acts 3:6) Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk."
(Acts 16:18) And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.
By the authority of Jesus we can go boldly to the throne of grace and speak directly to the Father. No more priest middle men.
The priests did not like the idea of Jesus having authority:
(Acts 4:18) And they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.
My Abba's Child
June 13th, 2006, 04:45 AM
This is where it gets REALLY confusing because the Father and the Son are One. Remember what Thomas said when he put his hands into the Lord's hands and side? MY LORD AND MY GOD! And Jesus did NOT correct him. Jesus IS God... remember how many times Jesus said I AM (Before Abraham was, I AM... when the guards asked if He was Jesus, he said, I AM, etc...).
They are inseperable. We don't worship THREE Gods, we worship ONE God that is threefold. Kinda like pouring icewater into a pan and boiling it til it steams... all three are H20--ONE substance--3 forms, and each form the same, but different. This is why so many other religions have problems understanding Christianity... they see us as worshipping 3 Gods because we make all these distinctions: pray TO the Father, but use the authority of Jesus' name in the power of the Holy Spirit, etc... etc... Some unsaved Jews look at us and think we're completely NUTS when we tell them that we worship the same God they do... because it SEEMS as if we're worshipping THREE SEPERATE Gods and that goes against their VERY most basic believe... The Lord God of Israel, He is ONE.
In His love,
BHiles
June 13th, 2006, 12:26 PM
Ummmm - no. You're mixing two different ideas.
"In the name" acknowledges authority.
(John 5:43) "I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.
(John 14:13) "And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
(John 16:23) "And in that day you will ask Me nothing. Most assuredly, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in My name He will give you.
(John 16:24) "Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.
(Acts 3:6) Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk."
(Acts 16:18) And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.
By the authority of Jesus we can go boldly to the throne of grace and speak directly to the Father. No more priest middle men.
The priests did not like the idea of Jesus having authority:
(Acts 4:18) And they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.
You are right that we already can go boldly to the thrown of grace but adding the tag line "In Jesus Name" does not strengthen our boldness or our lack thereof. I believe it means so much more than throwing a wrote tag line on the end of the prayer as Magic Words to make the prayer work like a genie in a bottle or "hocus pocus" or "open sesame". Far to many use wrote words "in Jesus Name" in habit without any authority as if to make the contents of the prayer palitable to the Father so they can get what they want.
Praying in Jesus name is the manner, authority and humility in which we come to the Father. By salvation alone we come by Christ's authority everytime we come to the Father. God is not senile wondering if our name is on the list or whether we are blood covered. He needs not to be reminded what His Son did to give us access to grant our requests.
Let me give you a crude example.
If I had a friend in a distant city who owned a hotel and My son was going there. I gave my son my credit card and wrote a letter to my friend to allow my son to charge his needs to that card. My son would be going in my name and by my authority to get his needs from the man at the hotel. Now if my son started ordering liquor and charging large amounts for parties at my friend's hotel, He would immediately become supicious because He knew that I would not allow that kind of thing to go on and he himself was not the kind of man involved in that activity. Even though I had made a way of purchase for my son and had told the man to grant his request my friend would immediately realize that my son was asking for things that were not authorized by me. He was asking for things that I would never approve of and asking for things that would not be in accordance with my good name.
This is a crude example of asking for things amiss or not in Christ's name.
We see an example of this when Christ prayed to God according to God's Will. "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven" only after this is the petition made. "Give us this day". Now bear in mind Jesus was telling His disciples exactly the manner in which their prayers should be and be heard. At no time did He say and also throw in a "In Jesus Name" at the end or my Father won't hear you.
Christ prayer was made in His own name and of course because He was God as God's will first.
We must also understand that in Jesus' name is specifically speaking of asking not prayer in general. Why is that? Because it is the asking that must be in the will of God that makes it in Jesus' name. Otherwise we would be asking amiss to consume it upon our own lusts.
tjplaw
June 13th, 2006, 01:05 PM
In Jesus name means authority and Amen means truth.
Never forget them in your prayers.
Remember the Lord's prayer as a guideline for your prayers.
This is something I use in my prayer life, I try not to do all the talking.
take time to listen to the Holy Spirit.
Mommy2KandM
June 13th, 2006, 01:22 PM
Amen means truth.
Amen means "so be it" So when one prays "in Jesus name, amen" it is the same as saying "In Jesus Name, so be it."
Laura-bell
June 13th, 2006, 04:20 PM
You are right that we already can go boldly to the thrown of grace but adding the tag line "In Jesus Name" does not strengthen our boldness or our lack thereof. I believe it means so much more than throwing a wrote tag line on the end of the prayer as Magic Words to make the prayer work like a genie in a bottle or "hocus pocus" or "open sesame". Far to many use wrote words "in Jesus Name" in habit without any authority as if to make the contents of the prayer palitable to the Father so they can get what they want.
Praying in Jesus name is the manner, authority and humility in which we come to the Father. By salvation alone we come by Christ's authority everytime we come to the Father. God is not senile wondering if our name is on the list or whether we are blood covered. He needs not to be reminded what His Son did to give us access to grant our requests.
Let me give you a crude example.
If I had a friend in a distant city who owned a hotel and My son was going there. I gave my son my credit card and wrote a letter to my friend to allow my son to charge his needs to that card. My son would be going in my name and by my authority to get his needs from the man at the hotel. Now if my son started ordering liquor and charging large amounts for parties at my friend's hotel, He would immediately become supicious because He knew that I would not allow that kind of thing to go on and he himself was not the kind of man involved in that activity. Even though I had made a way of purchase for my son and had told the man to grant his request my friend would immediately realize that my son was asking for things that were not authorized by me. He was asking for things that I would never approve of and asking for things that would not be in accordance with my good name.
This is a crude example of asking for things amiss or not in Christ's name.
We see an example of this when Christ prayed to God according to God's Will. "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven" only after this is the petition made. "Give us this day". Now bear in mind Jesus was telling His disciples exactly the manner in which their prayers should be and be heard. At no time did He say and also throw in a "In Jesus Name" at the end or my Father won't hear you.
Christ prayer was made in His own name and of course because He was God as God's will first.
We must also understand that in Jesus' name is specifically speaking of asking not prayer in general. Why is that? Because it is the asking that must be in the will of God that makes it in Jesus' name. Otherwise we would be asking amiss to consume it upon our own lusts.
This is a far better way of saying what I was trying to say. A name tag means nothing, but there is also authority in the name of Jesus.:thumb
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