Question About Creation: A Real Thinker...

[BigJer]

I'm reading a book about the kingdom of God and how He deals with mankind...it's called "Thy Kingdom Come" by Dwight Pentecost.

Anyway, the author is laying the foundation for God's right to rule mankind because He created the earth. He covers the days of creation and when referring to the Sun, Moon and stars he mentions briefly that they were created to last until God's light makes them void in Revelation 21. I never really thought about it, but that is not necessarily the case. Wasn't God's light the source before the fall? The Bible says man was clothed in light before the fall.

Here's my question...

What God created was perfect. Adam and Eve fell causing a break in the fellowship with God and man and bringing the curse upon the earth. Later the flood destroyed the planet and most agree that it was a destruction of the galaxy as well (at least our immediate galaxy) i.e., the firmament, etc. So, when we go outside and look to the heavens today we see a Sun, Moon and stars that are the result of the fall, right? What did the Sun look like before the fall? Science and astronomy today reveal a mass of chaos, burning, firery, explosive gas...was that how God originally made it?

We also see the Moon as scarred and busted all over from astroids and such, as well as the other planets...what did they look like before the fall, and/or the flood?

Anyway, I just began to ponder that today...we assume I think that they have always been what we see today, but they really must have been completely different before the fall, IMO...

Thoughts?

[ub4war]

cool ---i never thought of that---until yesterday i did not realize most of mankind including 7 of the 8 patriarchs before the flood had seen Adam
and that he was the father of all of them ===i think Adam died before Noah
anyway if you have any good bible links on anything post em---i need studying material:):

[CitySearcher]

I have always believed that after the fall, sin permeated everything in the universe except God's kingdom, and that after the 1000 year reign, everything including the universe will be renewed.

Not sure what the universe would have looked like before the fall, but it certainly was better than it looks now. :):

Very interesting post...have to do some more thinking on it.

God bless.

[BHiles]

Scripture tells us that at creation the sun was made for light and the moon was made for light. It was not God's presence that lit the world. He made these bodies for this purpose.

Genesis 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

We have no scriptural indication of how the universe was affected directly at the fall. We do not no what the planets looked like nor if the moon suffered any damage as a result of fall, flood or just natural phenonmena do to God's general plan. Just because God allows a meteor to crash into the moon does not mean it is not perfect. If it followed His plan then it is perfect.

Furthermore we know from scripture the firmament was not broken up until the flood. God vastly changed the earth from pre-deluge to post deluge. The most massive earth changes occurred during this time and the denial by those who propose the Old earth theory of a Young Earth is mainly by those who fail to believe and recognize the significance of what happened when a worldwide deluge hit this earth.

Many believe as I do myself that the firmament which man could see was a water vapor that covered the entire earth and it kept a balanced weather system. The sun would not have to have changed at all in order for the earth to have sense it was quite a different planet. It was this water vapor that actually was allowed to condense and fall. Further exasperated by the breakup of the earth in which the fountains that watered it also contributed to the flooding. The rains came down but the floods also came up.

There is ample evidences of this at the north pole where they have found tropical species buried under the ice.

[alrdyreg]

who beleives the galaxy was destryoed? i dont ... ????