101 Bible contradictions.

[BornSinner]

http://www.islamway.com/english/images/library/contradictions.htm

Several athesit friends of mine have given me this link and it's very troubling. I was also on other message boards and people were spouting this too? I've tried debinking it, but now I'm just confused. Any advice?:confused

[Schumacher]

Some of them are more serious than others, a lot aren't "clear" but are resolved when you look at the context (for example, the meaning of God changing his mind in 1 Sam 15, the "can true Christians sin", who bears beardens in Galatians 6 - could go on, but I won't!). This website will help!

http://www.tektonics.org/

[Werner]

http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm :):

[prewrath]

I looked at the first supposed contridication and this is what i found,http://www.carm.org/diff/2Sam24_9.htm

[Transformed]

I'll look over this list more thoroughly later, but the first thing that comes to mind is that I don't see most of these (probably ANY of them) as being salvation issues. And this is typical of the kind of things, especially among synoptic gospel accounts, where eyewitnesses offer "different" accounts. Not wrong, just different.

[prewrath]

I'll look over this list more thoroughly later, but the first thing that comes to mind is that I don't see most of these (probably ANY of them) as being salvation issues. And this is typical of the kind of things, especially among synoptic gospel accounts, where eyewitnesses offer "different" accounts. Not wrong, just different.


Yeah, but someone who hates God and anything christian will try anything not to believe.

[Paul]

http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm :):
I was just going to post this. The link above is a direct response to the contradictions.

[Amazedgrace56]

http://www.islamway.com/english/images/library/contradictions.htm

Several athesit friends of mine have given me this link and it's very troubling. I was also on other message boards and people were spouting this too? I've tried debinking it, but now I'm just confused. Any advice?:confused
WHAT WERE THE RESULTS OF JOAB'S CENSUS?
I Chronicles 21:5 And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword (1,100,000): and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword (470,000). (KJV)


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II Samuel 24:9 And Joab gave up the sum of the number of the people unto the king: and there were in Israel eight hundred thousand valiant men that drew the sword (800,000); and the men of Judah were five hundred thousand men (500,000). (KJV)

There are two possible answers to this.
One has to do with the word 'valiant' in the 2 Samuel passage. 1 Chronicles is counting all men, while 2 Samuel is counting only the 'valiant' ones. Unlike in English, where the word 'valiant' is simply a term that could apply to anyone to some degree, in Hebrew the word (which is 'chayil') refers to those who are trained for battle. There were an additional 300,000 men who were, in a sense, in the military reserve. They carried swords, but were not trained for battle.

Another is that 1 Chronicles 27:1-15 mentions twelve divisions of 24,000 men each. This adds up to 288,000 men. It's possible that the author of 1 Chronicles counted these men, while the author of 2 Samuel did not. This would account for the difference of nearly 300,000 men.

As for the men of Judah, 1 Chronicles gives the number 470,000 while 2 Samuel gives 500,000. The text states that Joab had not counted the tribe of Benjamin, which was known to be around 30,000 men. The author of 1 Chronicles is giving the figure Joab actually gave to David, which did not count the tribe of Benjamin, while the author of 2 Samuel gives the number that were actually in Israel, and therefore added the number of the tribe of Benjamin. Not a contradiction.

http://www.kingdavid8.com/Contradictions/Samuel/20JoabCensusResults.html


HOW MANY YEARS OF FAMINE DID THE ANGEL GAD THREATEN DAVID WITH?
II Samuel 24:13 So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue thee? or that there be three days' pestilence in thy land? now advise, and see what answer I shall return to him that sent me. (KJV)


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I Chronicles 21:12 Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me. (KJV)

These are actually two different situations being described here. Reading the passages around it, you will see that the 2 Samuel threat happens before David repents, and the 1 Chronicles situation happens after David repents. Due to David's repentance, God lowered the threat of famine from seven years to three years. Not a contradiction.

HOW MANY OF EACH TYPE OF ANIMAL DID NOAH BRING ON THE ARK?
Genesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. (KJV)
Genesis 7:8-9 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. (KJV)



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Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. (KJV)

Considering that these are from the same book (and within a 13-passage section), the idea of a true contradiction is unlikely. The Genesis 6:19 passage is telling the number that Noah had to bring on the ark in order to keep them alive (for a species to reproduce, they only need a male and a female). In Genesis 7:2, the number of clean animals that are to be brought is upped to seven because now God is ordering Noah to bring animals for food and sacrifice. Genesis 7:8-9, it's simply saying that they entered the ark two by two, and says nothing about the idea that there were only two of each type of beast. Not a contradiction.

WHO INCITED DAVID TO TAKE THE CENSUS? GOD OR SATAN?
II Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah. (KJV)


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I Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. (KJV)

This is not a contradiction because both are true. Like in many cases WHO INCITED DAVID TO TAKE THE CENSUS? GOD OR SATAN?
II Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah. (KJV)


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I Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. (KJV)

This is not a contradiction because both are true. Like in many cases throughout the Bible, such as the temptation of Jesus in the desert and Peter's denial of the Lord, these actions were done under the influence of satan, but with God's stamp of approval as well, since God knew that the result would ultimately favor Him. In this case, David's pride was driving him further from God, and God knew that David needed to be punished so that he could learn to rely on God, and not on himself. God allowed David's disobedience to go ahead, knowing the negative affect it would have upon his self-pride. Not a contradiction.


throughout the Bible, such as the temptation of Jesus in the desert and Peter's denial of the Lord, these actions were done under the influence of satan, but with God's stamp of approval as well, since God knew that the result would ultimately favor Him. In this case, David's pride was driving him further from God, and God knew that David needed to be punished so that he could learn to rely on God, and not on himself. God allowed David's disobedience to go ahead, knowing the negative affect it would have upon his self-pride. Not a contradiction.


DID JESUS EVER SAY ANYTHING IN SECRET?
John 18:20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. (KJV)


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Mark 4:34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples. (KJV)

In the John passage, Jesus is specifically referring to his primary teachings, saying that when he spoke to his public, he did it out in the open for everyone to see, and not hidden in some basement somewhere. In Mark, the author is referring to Jesus' words to his core followers, the Apostles. Not a contradiction.




and so on and so forth..the thing here is all you need to do is go find out if the charge that these 101 contradictions is true or not..now with a little bit of time..you can go and look up all 101 of them if you feel the need..want to know the answers..or you can look at these responses and see right out of the box..with just a little "faith" the answers are waiting for you to find..no need to worry.. have never been presented with a contradiction that can't be reasonable explainned and answered yet..

Usually that is not the problem because the ones looking for them usually don't care what the truth is..but it's always good to demonstrate that this is their agenda so others don't get rattled by the doubts and confusion they try to creatw..one of Satan's favorite strategies is to 'twist" God's words around..used it on Eve and created one heck of a big mess!

if the source of such contradiction blaming is coming from the enemies camp charging God with being a liar..you can count on who the liar is by process of elimination..

[Laura-bell]

The chronicles are all but copies of the time of the books of kings. The books of samuel introduce the first 2 or so kings. So that is a different time frame. And the first contradiction if I'm not mistaken isn't a contradiction at all. If you read Job, you'll see that satan can't do anything that God doesn't allow.

And here is a link to a great pastor who is very knowledgeable.
http://www.strictlybiblical.org

[bopeep1909]

The Bible is divine in origin. It is the written word of God. They can doubt all they want.Satan hates the Bible and can not stand it when we read or recite any words from it.<><

[Laura-bell]

I think the concern here is bornsinners own lack of understanding. It can cause doubt sometimes when you see things like this.

[SpeedRacer]

none of these so called "contradictions" are any problem to someone who trusts in God.

[Lacrimosa]

So, to take the arguement one step forward logically, we can trust in God to contridict himself?

[BigJer]

Usually any so-called contridictions are cleared up with some deep study and original language helps. A lot of words have several meanings in Hebrew thus a lot of "contridictions" are found in the OT. The NT Greek is a lot more exact and the contridictions in it just need to be studied a bit to clear up. Also, many of these are just due to the fact that God ordained different views from authors. This actually backs up the Bible as not being written by those who conspired to write down the same thing.

The Bible is fully inspired, but still written by men who had their own literary styles. Yet the whole book harmonizes from Genesis to Revelation. No one could do that with any religion today.

Athiests do not want to know the truth of God's word. Remember Romans 1 says they are "willfully ignorant" and even though they know the truth inside they "supress the truth in unrighteousness". The tense on that passage is an active one, meaning that they actually work at denying the truth. Remember that when dealing with them. And don't cast your pearls before swine. There is no shame in walking away from an argument with an athiest. Jesus walked away from the scholars of his day and went to those who were eager to hear the Gospel of the Kingdom.

I always like Psalm 25:14 for stuff like this...

"The secret of the LORD is with those who fear Him; and unto them will He reveal His covenant."

[alrdyreg]

you know... josh mcdowell sent himself out on a mission to prove the Bible wrong. he spent YEARS looking for contradictions and falacies (sp). what did he find? NOTHING!

the Bible is error free. i pray they come to know Jesus and can see that. just like mcdowell did.

[BornSinner]

Thanks for the help.:):

[BornSinner]

I think the concern here is bornsinners own lack of understanding. It can cause doubt sometimes when you see things like this.

I understand ,my only concern was that it could be dangerous for the unsaved, that's all.:(:

[Laura-bell]

I understand ,my only concern was that it could be dangerous for the unsaved, that's all.:(:


I'm sorry, and don't worry about the unsaved like that. God has His ways' of reaching whomever He wants. Like Josh McDowell.:):

[ub4war]

carm.com can help you-------no problamo

[alrdyreg]

I understand ,my only concern was that it could be dangerous for the unsaved, that's all.:(:


sadly people will jump on the band wagon... however if we talk to them and show them these false contradictions then they will plainly see the Bible is error free.

[busterdog]

Quantum Mechanics are not consistent with Newton's Laws.

Therefore, there is no Universe.

Hominahominahominahomina!

[prairiedog]

I'm glad this topic came up.

Gonna study the "contradictions" for myself.

An easy one to refute is the one about Adam & death. Adam died the same day he sinned, but lived to be an old man.

Adam died spiritually the day he sinned, but his flesh did not die for many many years afterwards.

I suppose that if one does not believe God exists/wants us to have a personal relationship with Him, then they will continue to claim the Bible is not true.

[ohappyday]

This is coming from people who are hunting something to cause unbelief and doubt in others. I've not look all of them up but the ones I did showed no contradictions, the truth was there if one looked for it. There was a explanation for each verse in question. I have no doubt that all of them will fall into the same category.

[831]

Hi All.

Here are a couple of links for you to use, that will show you how to answer these people & the so called contradictions they claim.

http://www.godandscience.org/aboutus.html

http://www.christiananswers.net/menu-at1.html

http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm

http://www.rationalchristianity.net/143contrad.html

I hope that this will be enough for you to check out, if I have gone to far by posting to many links, may I now say to the Mods I am sorry. But as you could passably see the question called for some links to sites that show the errors of these so called contradictions.


God Bless you all
831

[BornSinner]

Thanks for the help, everyone.:):

[BeltOfTruth]

There just simply aren't any Bible contradictions. The only way a person finds a supposed contradicition is to take the verse out of context, doesn't go back to the original GReek or Hebrew, etc.

[My Abba's Child]

you know... josh mcdowell sent himself out on a mission to prove the Bible wrong. he spent YEARS looking for contradictions and falacies (sp). what did he find? NOTHING!

the Bible is error free. i pray they come to know Jesus and can see that. just like mcdowell did.

My husband did the same thing... spent two years researching to prove the Bible false, he was rabidly anti-God, his credo was, "Religion is a crutch for people who can't face the reality of life". hehe He was COMPLETELY Darwin theory, big bang theory, he even minored in anthropology.

HOWEVER, after intense research, he could NOT prove anything in the Bible incorrect, began to see God in the 100% accurately and specifically fulfilled prophecies, and ended up with no other choice but to place his life in God's hands by placing his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. :D: In fact, he made a decision for Christ before I did! :nod

In His love,

[nancyjean]

WOW isn't that just Wonderful!!!! I am so very happy that you guys accepted Christ.