Anyone know Ron Dart?

[Creeper]

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They had to get the body of Jesus down off the stake and the work of burial finished before sundown when the Sabbath began. There is no slack in here. I have included all this information to establish that Jesus’ body went into the tomb in the last moments before the sun went down, beginning the Sabbath day.

So our question is, was this late on Friday, just before the Sabbath, or late on Wednesday, just before the festival Sabbath? The latter of these alternatives would give us our three days and three nights.


http://www.rondart.com/Book%20Holidays/7%20Three%20Days%20an%20three%20nights.htm

[Gary]

I've heard of a "Lawn Dart"...

Seriously though, I don't know of any scripture that says three days and three nights

Mat 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Mat 20:19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.

Mar 9:31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.


Mar 10:34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

Luk 18:33 And they shall scourge [him], and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.


All of the resurrection passages describe Jesus as rising on the third day, it says nothing about nights.

Buried Friday afternoon and rising Sunday morning works just fine.

[Gary]

OKay, after checking Matt 12 -39-40, I really don't have an answer.

It is impossible to "rise on the third day" and spend three whole days in the belly of the earth. Mr. Dart's math is completely wrong. No matter how you look at it if Jesus was buried in the afternoon of any day, any resurrected on the third day later, you still only get three days and two nights. In his scenario, being buried late Wednesday afternoon and rising Saturday morning gives you four days, not three.

In the jewish tradition, night is from sun down on one day to sun rise on the next. If He was buried any afternoon and rose any morning it constitutes an uneven number of days and nights.

Ron Dart is wrong.

As for the seeming contradiction in these two verses vs the rest of the Gospel account of the crucifixion....:noidea

[shkad14]

I am surprized at Ron Dart. IF it is the same Ron Dart who has a teaching ministry on the radio. He is awesome. I have listened to him for years and never heard anything that didnt line up with scripture. His full name is Ronald L. Dart. His website is borntowin.org or born2win.org. Something like that.
I would be intereseted to now if these are the same people

[3rd Circle]

As for the scriptural reference to 3 days AND 3 nights:

Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

This excerpt from Matthew clears up any disagreement as to how long Jesus said He would be in the grave.

As for Ronald L. Dart (Born to Win), I listen to him on the radio each day as I drive to work. I have always found his teaching to be solidly grounded in the Scripture and I've learned a lot from his programs. I also heard his programs relating to the actual day of the week on which the crucifixion and resurrection occurred. Although I haven't verified his claims with personal, Biblical fact-checking, I would be very surprised if the conclusions of his research are anything other than 100% consistent with scripture. He is a meticulous Biblical scholar and he stays focused on the scripture in everything he teaches. I highly recommend his teachings.

[Lexie]

Ron Dart the "church of God" are seventh day Adventists. They teach the two house theory, Hebrew roots, they believe they are the lost celtic tribes of Israel and that the Kings of England, Scotland are Kings of Israel..They teach unclean and clean food to eat per OT law's to Israel and covenant theology.. You will see them in the Rapture Doctrine Discussion area.

The sda constitution

2.1.9 We believe in the ordinance of water baptism by immersion following repentance. Through the laying on of hands, with prayer, the believer receives the Holy Spirit and becomes a part of the spiritual body of Jesus Christ.

2.1.5 We believe that sin is the transgression of the law. The law is spiritual, perfect, holy, just and good. The law defines God's love and is based upon the two great principles of love toward God and love toward neighbor, and is immutable and binding. The Ten Commandments are the ten points of God's law of love. We believe that breaking any one point of the law brings upon a person the penalty of sin. We believe that this fundamental spiritual law reveals the only way to true life and the only possible way of happiness, peace and joy. All unhappiness, misery, anguish and woe have come from transgressing God's law.

http://www.thejournal.org/studylibrary/jsceptre/jsceptre.html

http://www.thejournal.org/archives/cgtimln3.html

http://www.thejournal.org/sept97.html

http://www.british-israel.ca/

http://www.thejournal.org/refdesk/links/coglinks.html

[Creeper]

Thank you all very much for the replies. :thumb

Dart is just as I thought a SDA.:tin

[Gary]

As for the scriptural reference to 3 days AND 3 nights:

Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

This excerpt from Matthew clears up any disagreement as to how long Jesus said He would be in the grave.



Ummm, no, it doesn't.

Mat 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Mat 20:19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.

Mar 9:31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.


Mar 10:34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

Luk 18:33 And they shall scourge [him], and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.

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OKay, after checking Matt 12 -39-40, I really don't have an answer.

...As for the seeming contradiction in these two verses vs the rest of the Gospel account of the crucifixion....:noidea</snip>

All of the Gospel accounts of the crucifixion say He will rise on the third day. Matt 12: 39 - 40 is the only place in scripture (that I am aware of) that says three days and three nights. It DOESN'T clear anything up. I have to ask the question, why this particular passage differs with the rest of the NT:confused