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yellowbo
March 29th, 2006, 08:22 PM
I think about this a lot. Other then the fact that the bible is right on the money in EVERY single thing, what is the ONE out wards sign that confirms to you that you have the right one (GOD)?

For me, it would have to be the unrelenting hatred and anger toward Jesus. Even mentioning His name angers people..

OK, I have one more.. the hatred of the Jews, again for noo reason at all.

Whats yours?

Morgan
March 29th, 2006, 08:35 PM
You are putting up some great posts today yellowbo!

I think about this a lot too and I have the same answer every time and that is prophecy! The accuracy about Prophecy regarding the hatred for the Lord and for the Jews, but especially when the Bible (I think in Daniel) said that in those days (the end) people will be going to and fro very fast and that information will be flowing and abundant.

That amazes me especially looking at how that changed almost over night. Of course, I remember when TV only had three stations, exclusively in black and white and we were just getting adjusted to the visual world rather than listening to the radio. So for me - it really has been just like overnight that the internet has completely changed the world.

Christianity is the ONLY faith in a God who has told us the end from the beginning and we are watching it unfold before our very eyes. No religion of men has dared to predict what would happen with such accuracy. Those who did were shown to be false and died out.

Again, great question.

Hyssop
March 29th, 2006, 09:13 PM
Christianity is the only religion that isn't about religion, it is unique (grace is)

yellowbo
March 29th, 2006, 09:40 PM
You are putting up some great posts today yellowbo!

Again, great question.


Thanks! Have to make up for my lousy posting yesterday!:D:

JoyUnspeakable
March 29th, 2006, 10:20 PM
The peace that I have in my heart when I am in His Word and walking with Him daily.


:wave

J4E
March 29th, 2006, 10:20 PM
I think about this a lot. Other then the fact that the bible is right on the money in EVERY single thing, what is the ONE out wards sign that confirms to you that you have the right one (GOD)?

For me, it would have to be the unrelenting hatred and anger toward Jesus. Even mentioning His name angers people..

OK, I have one more.. the hatred of the Jews, again for noo reason at all.

Whats yours?

Ahhhh hum.... you said ONE, that was two! :laugh

yellowbo
March 29th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Ahhhh hum.... you said ONE, that was two! :laugh

I know!:D:

J4E
March 29th, 2006, 10:48 PM
And that's why I didn't reply. I can't pick just one. Nor 2 lol

yellowbo
March 29th, 2006, 10:52 PM
And that's why I didn't reply. I can't pick just one. Nor 2 lol

Ok! since I am feeling generous tonight!:D: Go ahead and give us more then one or two!! Its always good to see everyones reasons, even if the are going to be a thread hog!:pound Kidding of course!! Post on!

I'm waiting.

Still waiting..


OK GO!

Believeth
March 29th, 2006, 11:32 PM
I know i have the right God because God created me with a conscience, and everything my conscience has ever told me that was wrong, is wrong in the bible. And also every time i have done something good and my conscience was satisfied, it says in the bible to do these things. Another way i know i have the only and true God is because he is everything a God has to be in order to do the job of a God properly, he matches the standards of a God that would create a world this amazing just for some walking and talking pieces of clay. :clap

Also the changes that occured in my life when i dedicated my life to Him. I used to hate everyone, i used to despise my parents and i wanted to commit suicide on many occasions. Since ive dedicated my life to God, i have changed into a loving, caring, emotional person, with extreme joy and purpose in my life that i have never felt before. :D:

Cloud Watcher
March 29th, 2006, 11:46 PM
Too many to count, but one thing is the incredible numbers of absolute miracles that have occurred either unexpectedly or in answer to prayer.
An example: during my first year walking with the Lord there was a day that I had a really miserable head cold...the kind where you almost wish you could cut off your face. It happened to be the day of the midweek church service, and for once I decided not to go, although usually wild horses couldn't keep me away. While I was lying there in misery, the Lord spoke to me and told me to go ask my neighbor to go to church with me. I said "Lord I'm not going tonight. I'm too sick". Then He repeated His request, so I thought "ok, I guess I should obey". I went next door, extended the invitation, which was accepted, then went back into my house. I suddenly realized as I walked in the door MY COLD WAS ALL GONE!!!!! In my act of obedience He healed me.

yellowbo
March 29th, 2006, 11:47 PM
Nice testimony!! :):



I know i have the right God because God created me with a conscience, and everything my conscience has ever told me that was wrong, is wrong in the bible. And also every time i have done something good and my conscience was satisfied, it says in the bible to do these things. Another way i know i have the only and true God is because he is everything a God has to be in order to do the job of a God properly, he matches the standards of a God that would create a world this amazing just for some walking and talking pieces of clay. :clap

Also the changes that occured in my life when i dedicated my life to Him. I used to hate everyone, i used to despise my parents and i wanted to commit suicide on many occasions. Since ive dedicated my life to God, i have changed into a loving, caring, emotional person, with extreme joy and purpose in my life that i have never felt before. :D:

yellowbo
March 29th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Too many to count, but one thing is the incredible numbers of absolute miracles that have occurred either unexpectedly or in answer to prayer.
An example: during my first year walking with the Lord there was a day that I had a really miserable head cold...the kind where you almost wish you could cut off your face. It happened to be the day of the midweek church service, and for once I decided not to go, although usually wild horses couldn't keep me away. While I was lying there in misery, the Lord spoke to me and told me to go ask my neighbor to go to church with me. I said "Lord I'm not going tonight. I'm too sick". Then He repeated His request, so I thought "ok, I guess I should obey". I went next door, extended the invitation, which was accepted, then went back into my house. I suddenly realized as I walked in the door MY COLD WAS ALL GONE!!!!! In my act of obedience He healed me.


WOW! Thast is so cool! Did you neighbor ever become a believer?

Cloud Watcher
March 30th, 2006, 12:03 AM
to Yellowbo: I'm not sure. I moved shortly afterward

LaMontre
March 30th, 2006, 12:10 AM
I think about this a lot. Other then the fact that the bible is right on the money in EVERY single thing, what is the ONE out wards sign that confirms to you that you have the right one (GOD)?

For me, it would have to be the unrelenting hatred and anger toward Jesus. Even mentioning His name angers people..

OK, I have one more.. the hatred of the Jews, again for noo reason at all.

Whats yours?

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

yellowbo
March 30th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

clearly

But... this was not about a question of faith, I was addressing the question to those who are already saved (which faith would be what brought us to salvation) it was a question with regards to what solidified it for us AFTER salvation.

ginseng
March 30th, 2006, 01:37 AM
The veil has been lifted. Scripture came alive. God reached for me and I grabbed His hand. He doesn't let go. Answered prayer. Tender comfort.

rancherswife
March 30th, 2006, 08:53 AM
You can only know God, the True God, through His Word. The question shouldn't be, "how do you know God apart from the scripture", but "Who does God say that He is?" Otherwise, we create a God of our own understanding.

I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. Isaiah 46:9

Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

The Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14:26

It is impossible to please God without faith. It is central to our relationship with God.

Giving testimony to God's goodness in our lives is important, however, it is not the way we know who God is, nor is it the primary way we build faith (ie, know we have the right God).

Hebrews 4:12 tells us "The Word of the Lord is living and active and sharper than any two edged sword", and scripture further instructs us to "meditate on the scriptures day and night". God's Word is intended for us to be used to Know Him as HE IS--not how we perceive Him.

Morgan
March 30th, 2006, 09:28 AM
You can only know God, the True God, through His Word. The question shouldn't be, "how do you know God apart from the scripture", but "Who does God say that He is?" Otherwise, we create a God of our own understanding.



Actually, I liked her question the way she posted it because, before becoming a believer, when people would try to use scripture to convince me that God was who He said He was made no sense to me. You have to accept that the scriptures are valid first.

Have you ever looked up a word in the dictionary like "believing" and the definition is - "the present tense of believe?"

Albeit the answer is acurate - you have no further knowledge except that it is a verb of another word that you are trying to find the definition to.

Your answers are very accurate too - but one must accept the validity of scriptures first before turning to them for the answers. Does that make sense? :):

The poster was posing the question that, apart from the scriptures - what evidence can we bring forward that supports our belief in our own heart.

holyspiritvesse
March 30th, 2006, 10:11 AM
I was immediately transformed into a new creation. Before I even knew that verse existed.

My wanters changed, my eyes were open. I understood scripture and God spoke to me through the written word.

I had a peace that passes any of man's understanding, and I knew - and have always known since, that when I die I will go to heaven. 100% security.

I saw sin the way He sees sin. I grieved for the lost.

LaMontre
March 30th, 2006, 10:30 AM
clearly

But... this was not about a question of faith, I was addressing the question to those who are already saved (which faith would be what brought us to salvation) it was a question with regards to what solidified it for us AFTER salvation.

Same answer.

Eph 2:8 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Which is of course related to this too;
Ro 8:16 - The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

:thumb

lookup
March 30th, 2006, 11:08 AM
I know that my God is the right one because He is unique. He gave Himself to save me. Every other god I've ever heard about requires a person to earn their way to heaven, or earn the right to be acceptable to god. No other God but the Christian God is not only Supreme and Lord of All, but also stooped down in mercy and grace to rescue me. This sets Him apart from all the rest.

CINDY S.
March 30th, 2006, 12:07 PM
fulfilling prophecy

xwalker
March 30th, 2006, 12:12 PM
Being baptized with the Holy Spirit...no other religion or God blesses you (fills you) with a part of who He is!:hail

faline
March 30th, 2006, 12:36 PM
There's an old Christian hymn that says, "You ask me how I know He lives? He lives within my heart." That is the best answer I can give...this living, breathing, unique personality who fills my life with Himself that is SO far removed from me and what I am that there is no doubt.

rancherswife
March 30th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Actually, I liked her question the way she posted it because, before becoming a believer, when people would try to use scripture to convince me that God was who He said He was made no sense to me. You have to accept that the scriptures are valid first.

Have you ever looked up a word in the dictionary like "believing" and the definition is - "the present tense of believe?"

Albeit the answer is acurate - you have no further knowledge except that it is a verb of another word that you are trying to find the definition to.

Your answers are very accurate too - but one must accept the validity of scriptures first before turning to them for the answers. Does that make sense? :):

The poster was posing the question that, apart from the scriptures - what evidence can we bring forward that supports our belief in our own heart.

No, it doesn't make sense in light of scripture. First of all, the way I read the initial post, it was written to people who are believers already. Do you accept the validity of the scriptures as a believer? I hope so! :thumb You are introducing a whole new idea here, which is evangelizing the unsaved and proving the validity of the Bible. I can answer your objection with scripture, though--Hebrews 4:12 For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul ans spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Regardless of who you are or what you believe, God's word IS alive and is relevant to you, even if you try hard to deny it.

We need to be careful NOT to lean on our heart for understanding about God! Jeremiah said, "the heart is deceitfully wicked, who can know it?"

God defines Himself throughout scripture. To know Him and understand Him, we MUST base our knowledge of Him through what He says about Himself and NOT what we imagine Him to be, or what we FEEL He is like. That is idolatry.

As far as defining the word 'believe', Let's look at it through scripture:

What does the scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." Romans 4:3

The word believe is the Greek Strong's Number: 4100 pisteuo which is from 4102 pistis--to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), ie credit; by impl. to entrust (espec. one's spiritual well-being to Christ).-believe, commit, put in trust with

That is what happens at conversion! :clap To believe God, or believe Christ is to entrust Him with our spiritual well-being! Praise God!

If you want to have the kind of faith Abraham had, Moses had, the disciples had, then you MUST put your faith in God as He defines Himself, not as you define Him.

Morgan
March 30th, 2006, 01:12 PM
No, it doesn't make sense in light of scripture. First of all, the way I read the initial post, it was written to people who are believers already. Do you accept the validity of the scriptures as a believer? I hope so! :thumb You are introducing a whole new idea here, which is evangelizing the unsaved and proving the validity of the Bible. I can answer your objection with scripture, though--Hebrews 4:12 For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul ans spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Regardless of who you are or what you believe, God's word IS alive and is relevant to you, even if you try hard to deny it.

We need to be careful NOT to lean on our heart for understanding about God! Jeremiah said, "the heart is deceitfully wicked, who can know it?"

God defines Himself throughout scripture. To know Him and understand Him, we MUST base our knowledge of Him through what He says about Himself and NOT what we imagine Him to be, or what we FEEL He is like. That is idolatry.

As far as defining the word 'believe', Let's look at it through scripture:

What does the scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." Romans 4:3

The word believe is the Greek Strong's Number: 4100 pisteuo which is from 4102 pistis--to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), ie credit; by impl. to entrust (espec. one's spiritual well-being to Christ).-believe, commit, put in trust with

That is what happens at conversion! :clap To believe God, or believe Christ is to entrust Him with our spiritual well-being! Praise God!

If you want to have the kind of faith Abraham had, Moses had, the disciples had, then you MUST put your faith in God as He defines Himself, not as you define Him.

I apologize if I did not word things correctly and was misunderstood in such a way that has provoked this response from you.

Please do not question my salvation. Please do not attack me.

I apologize if I harmed you in any way and I will assume that you offered these words in love to a fellow Christian and had you asked me for clarification I would have been happy to have provided it. Again, I apologize deeply for any possible offense and ask that you forgive me as I forgive you. Peace.

yellowbo
March 30th, 2006, 04:38 PM
No, it doesn't make sense in light of scripture. First of all, the way I read the initial post, it was written to people who are believers already. Do you accept the validity of the scriptures as a believer? I hope so! :thumb You are introducing a whole new idea here, which is evangelizing the unsaved and proving the validity of the Bible. I can answer your objection with scripture, though--Hebrews 4:12 For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul ans spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Regardless of who you are or what you believe, God's word IS alive and is relevant to you, even if you try hard to deny it.

We need to be careful NOT to lean on our heart for understanding about God! Jeremiah said, "the heart is deceitfully wicked, who can know it?"

God defines Himself throughout scripture. To know Him and understand Him, we MUST base our knowledge of Him through what He says about Himself and NOT what we imagine Him to be, or what we FEEL He is like. That is idolatry.

As far as defining the word 'believe', Let's look at it through scripture:

What does the scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." Romans 4:3

The word believe is the Greek Strong's Number: 4100 pisteuo which is from 4102 pistis--to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), ie credit; by impl. to entrust (espec. one's spiritual well-being to Christ).-believe, commit, put in trust with

That is what happens at conversion! :clap To believe God, or believe Christ is to entrust Him with our spiritual well-being! Praise God!

If you want to have the kind of faith Abraham had, Moses had, the disciples had, then you MUST put your faith in God as He defines Himself, not as you define Him.


I agree with you, but the point of my post was to just SIMPLY put what was "your light bulb" moment. Thats all. I mean come on, God reveals himself all through out the bible. Clearly the word of God is the ONE authority. But everyone of us has had a moment where we just KNEW. That is what the question was about. I think sometimes we 'over think" posts, when in fact it is a very simple answear.

I realize you took offense to my OP when I said aside from scripture. What I meant by that was that we ALL KNOW He reveals himself in scripture, that is why we hunger and thirst after the word of GOD. But there is a time in every believers life, where it all just sinks in. Like that 'AHHH moment" God never told us to not embrace our feelings or emotions, what he did say was not to reliy on them, but to reliy on the word of God. My question was not a question of "what feelings are you RELYING on to prove who God is, but rather what was the one light bulb moment for you. Not what brought you to salvation. Almost everyone got the question here. I am perplexed as to why you took offense to it.

I apologize to you for maybe not making myself clear. My question was not to stir up animosity, but to glorify God. Really.:):

Morgan
March 30th, 2006, 04:54 PM
Well said Yellowbo and said with love! :thumb

andy
March 30th, 2006, 07:25 PM
There are many reasons but the one that comes to my mind first is that our God died for us. How great a love for His children, it is beyond comprehension.

Thank you Jesus!

allynnegirl
March 30th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Because when I apply the biblical teachings to my life I am blessed for it. When I don't, the blessings disappear and trials/testing takes place so learning takes place, so I apply the biblical teachings to my life and I am blessed for it.

Is that clear as mud? :lol

Pegmo
March 30th, 2006, 07:53 PM
Because when I called out to Him for help, he answered and changed my life. I began to see myself and others through his eyes instead of mine. I felt wholly loved in a way I never experienced before. Because he healed my broken relationships. Because my priorities changed and I became less selfish. Because I understood his word. Because I had a hunger for His word. Because he softened my heart to the point that I cry often by what I see around me and when I even speak His name. Because I suddenly understood the falsehood of "Mary". Because I would wake up with answers to my biblical questions in my head. Because I no longer need alcohol. Because I now understand there is such a thing as bible prophecy. Because I no longer worry about everything, only His things. My security is no longer money. Because he answers ALL my prayers. Because my family now knows him too. Because we are all better people and are able to take care of others instead of just ourselves. Sorry for the rambling...there is too much to list.....He is beyond description and beyond good as I understand it. Because every change since I accepted Jesus has been good, and righteous and loving and fulfilling to myself and others and looks like good fruit to me. =0)

sealed
March 30th, 2006, 08:16 PM
The veil has been lifted. Scripture came alive. God reached for me and I grabbed His hand. He doesn't let go. Answered prayer. Tender comfort.

ditto. an assurance that doesnt come from me but from Holy Spirit. just know...couldn't explain that to a non-believer (i don't think).

ohappyday
March 31st, 2006, 12:43 AM
From Christ living in me. (The Holy Spirit).:thumb :clap

Amazedgrace56
March 31st, 2006, 01:09 AM
Good question..I actually waited a moment to try to chose my words "carefully" when I first saw it the other day..

My answer is "blessed assurance"..I felt "life" and I knew I was no longer what I had been..an understanding, a peace, a conviction that I never had apart from Christ..a profound awareness of God's Holy word as having a "voice"..absolutely no doubt whatsoever..that Christ was and is my Lord..and complete trust in everything that is part of Him..leaving a place where there was knowledge about God and a very personal, real and profound experience of being in the presence of a very alive relationship with Him.. a purpose for being alive at all..so many things that before I recieved Christ I was missing and aware there was an empty place in my soul longing for what was not there..and now that is gone..a deep contentment and longing to be in the presence of this God that surpasses anything I have ever known and absolutely inconcievable for me to seek or desire anything but this..I am aware this was given to me..it was absent and unknown to me me before I recieved it..the transaction took place in my heart and mind but the transformation took place in my soul..as Christ said it would..and it did..and for me that's how I "know"..

Sower
March 31st, 2006, 01:14 AM
The peace that I have in my heart when I am in His Word and walking with Him daily.


:wave


amen!!!:clap :clap ~ that personal connection, knowing He is there in the midst.


i love U Jesus!!!:wave

J4E
March 31st, 2006, 07:22 AM
ok, I'll answer... the supernatural (yes, you heard right) miracles he has done for me.

lookup
March 31st, 2006, 10:23 AM
Because when I apply the biblical teachings to my life I am blessed for it. When I don't, the blessings disappear and trials/testing takes place so learning takes place, so I apply the biblical teachings to my life and I am blessed for it.

Is that clear as mud? :lol
Not to hijack the thread, but I'd caution you to be very careful with this approach in validating God. There are times when you can be faithfully applying biblical teachings to your life, and still see trials and testings take place.

Either way, I agree that the trials/testings can be learning times, and that we are blessed when we apply God's principles to our lives.

lookup
March 31st, 2006, 10:26 AM
ok, I'll answer... the supernatural (yes, you heard right) miracles he has done for me.
Would you still believe Him to be the One True God if He hadn't done any supernatural miracles for you?

(Of course, salvation ranks top of the list of supernatural miracles, right?:): )

lookup
March 31st, 2006, 10:27 AM
There are many reasons but the one that comes to my mind first is that our God died for us. How great a love for His children, it is beyond comprehension.

Thank you Jesus!
Amen. And the fact that He died for us sets him apart from all the other "gods" out there.

lookup
March 31st, 2006, 10:39 AM
Just some random thoughts on the topic and some of the discussion...

On a "Christian" board like this one, do we assume that we are talking to believers, or do we recognize that some unbelievers might be turning here as well?

I would think that the title of this thread and the question presented would be a real draw to an unbeliever who was searching.

While I agree that any experience or opinions we have on the subject must be validated by scripture, wouldn't it be more effective to give a simple answer to this question in your own words, based on what you know about God and His Word?

I think the question asked is any extremely important one, BTW. We need to be able to formulate an effective answer, for ourselves, for the edification of our fellow Christian brothers and sisters, and to be able to answer anyone who questions why the Christian God is the One we should believe out of all the other options out there.

lookup
March 31st, 2006, 10:46 AM
ditto. an assurance that doesnt come from me but from Holy Spirit. just know...couldn't explain that to a non-believer (i don't think).

I don't mean to beat up on you (or anybody else), but I think it's real important that you are able to explain this to an unbeliever. Maybe thinking and talking this through can help you formulate some language to explain this to someone else.


1 Peter 3:15
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...

yellowbo
March 31st, 2006, 10:57 AM
Just some random thoughts on the topic and some of the discussion...

On a "Christian" board like this one, do we assume that we are talking to believers, or do we recognize that some unbelievers might be turning here as well?

I would think that the title of this thread and the question presented would be a real draw to an unbeliever who was searching.

While I agree that any experience or opinions we have on the subject must be validated by scripture, wouldn't it be more effective to give a simple answer to this question in your own words, based on what you know about God and His Word?

I think the question asked is any extremely important one, BTW. We need to be able to formulate an effective answer, for ourselves, for the edification of our fellow Christian brothers and sisters, and to be able to answer anyone who questions why the Christian God is the One we should believe out of all the other options out there.

Well said.

LivnForChrist
March 31st, 2006, 11:12 AM
God opening up my understanding and seeing prophecy fulfilled before my very eyes.

Raggsokk81
March 31st, 2006, 11:25 AM
Like everyone else says, there is so many. But to take one that isen't in here yet I would go to the exstreme and say dinosours :)

I have grown up as a christian, but could strugle at times with why was this the right religion. And when I heard about sites like AiG they just puzzeled it all so well together. Explained all the silinece of evolution and so on.

I just love reading the bible now :)

rancherswife
March 31st, 2006, 11:32 AM
I apologize if I did not word things correctly and was misunderstood in such a way that has provoked this response from you.

Please do not question my salvation. Please do not attack me.

I apologize if I harmed you in any way and I will assume that you offered these words in love to a fellow Christian and had you asked me for clarification I would have been happy to have provided it. Again, I apologize deeply for any possible offense and ask that you forgive me as I forgive you. Peace.

:confused I didn't question your salvation, or even think it. I didn't attack you. I responded to your post. I haven't been offended and I fail to see what I've said to be forgiven for. I was simply responding to your post. :nod

rancherswife
March 31st, 2006, 12:57 PM
I agree with you, but the point of my post was to just SIMPLY put what was "your light bulb" moment. Thats all. I mean come on, God reveals himself all through out the bible. Clearly the word of God is the ONE authority. But everyone of us has had a moment where we just KNEW. That is what the question was about. I think sometimes we 'over think" posts, when in fact it is a very simple answear.

I realize you took offense to my OP when I said aside from scripture. What I meant by that was that we ALL KNOW He reveals himself in scripture, that is why we hunger and thirst after the word of GOD. But there is a time in every believers life, where it all just sinks in. Like that 'AHHH moment" God never told us to not embrace our feelings or emotions, what he did say was not to reliy on them, but to reliy on the word of God. My question was not a question of "what feelings are you RELYING on to prove who God is, but rather what was the one light bulb moment for you. Not what brought you to salvation. Almost everyone got the question here. I am perplexed as to why you took offense to it.

I apologize to you for maybe not making myself clear. My question was not to stir up animosity, but to glorify God. Really.:):

Thank you for clarifying your intent. :thumb There is a big difference between "testifying" about the things God has done in our lives and using them to define Him. By asking how we all knew we were following the correct God, and then saying "apart from scripture", I felt it was important to state that we can know the Truth about God only from what He says about Himself. I didn't take offense. I never thought you or anyone else wasn't saved. I was responding to posts, only. The issue of the unsaved was brought up by someone else--not me.

The church today is steering off the path. More and more people are relying on a god other than the God of the Bible. I'm glad you see the need to define God through His words in scripture. Unfortunately, many, many people define Him as THEY see Him, or base their understanding of God on experiences they have had. This is wrong, and it is becoming an all too common practice in churches. Many times I've heard people saying comments such as: "I feel that God is..." or "that's right for you, but MY god wouldn't do that"...or "I'm coming closer to the god of my own understanding". None of these discussions about God are scripturally based, but based on the very lacking wisdom of man. Idolatry is rampant in our world. :cry

I don't have a stitch of animosity toward you or anyone else:confused Why is encouraging people to follow the God of scripture, and then providing verses for this, animosity? We must never make a god based on our own experiences. We must worship God as He defines Himself in scriptures.

tjplaw
March 31st, 2006, 01:33 PM
Christianity is the only religion that isn't about religion, it is unique (grace is)

Christianity is not a Religion.

Religion is created by men.

J4E
March 31st, 2006, 04:19 PM
(Of course, salvation ranks top of the list of supernatural miracles, right?:): )

of course.... I didn't see them till after salvation. :D: But I will admit... it's a deterent in those times where I start to doubt. Not that I do all that often. But you know satan likes to start putting stupid thought in your head.

CarpeDiem
March 31st, 2006, 07:33 PM
There are several significant biblical truths, outside the salvation truths, that scream we have the right God:

The nation of Israel and its people (any other tribe would have disbursed centuries ago)
The apostle Paul who, a Jew, was converted to Christianity on the road to Damascus
The inward witness of the Holy Spirit
The ability of the Bible to predict future events
The accuracy of the Bible proven through archeological discoveries
The message of love and forgiveness, which is the opposite of Islam’s message of hate and unforgiveness

Gordon b
March 31st, 2006, 08:15 PM
Isaiah 46 :10

Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure';

ub4war
March 31st, 2006, 08:57 PM
God will manifest himself in you and Jesus will come and make his abode with you------when that happens there is no mistaking it:):

ub4war
March 31st, 2006, 08:59 PM
hey gordan is that some adobe going on there?

My Abba's Child
April 1st, 2006, 03:44 AM
I think about this a lot. Other then the fact that the bible is right on the money in EVERY single thing, what is the ONE out wards sign that confirms to you that you have the right one (GOD)?

For me, it would have to be the unrelenting hatred and anger toward Jesus. Even mentioning His name angers people..

OK, I have one more.. the hatred of the Jews, again for noo reason at all.

Whats yours?

100% fulfilled detailed prophecy. :thumb :nod No one but the one TRUE God could give us the very detailed prophecies in the Bible and have them fulfilled 100% as so many of them have been! This gives us the confidence of knowing that we are worshipping the TRUE Creator of the Universe and the knowledge that, since prophesies have been fulfilled 100% in the past, they will be fulfilled 100% in the present and future, too.

In His love,

My Abba's Child
April 1st, 2006, 03:48 AM
No, it doesn't make sense in light of scripture. First of all, the way I read the initial post, it was written to people who are believers already. Do you accept the validity of the scriptures as a believer? I hope so! :thumb You are introducing a whole new idea here, which is evangelizing the unsaved and proving the validity of the Bible. I can answer your objection with scripture, though--Hebrews 4:12 For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul ans spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Regardless of who you are or what you believe, God's word IS alive and is relevant to you, even if you try hard to deny it.

We need to be careful NOT to lean on our heart for understanding about God! Jeremiah said, "the heart is deceitfully wicked, who can know it?"

God defines Himself throughout scripture. To know Him and understand Him, we MUST base our knowledge of Him through what He says about Himself and NOT what we imagine Him to be, or what we FEEL He is like. That is idolatry.

As far as defining the word 'believe', Let's look at it through scripture:

What does the scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." Romans 4:3

The word believe is the Greek Strong's Number: 4100 pisteuo which is from 4102 pistis--to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), ie credit; by impl. to entrust (espec. one's spiritual well-being to Christ).-believe, commit, put in trust with

That is what happens at conversion! :clap To believe God, or believe Christ is to entrust Him with our spiritual well-being! Praise God!

If you want to have the kind of faith Abraham had, Moses had, the disciples had, then you MUST put your faith in God as He defines Himself, not as you define Him.

AMEN!! There are too many people wandering the world with a "god" that they've made up for themselves. A "god" who conforms to their image, not one whom they are made in HIS. The 12 step programs are infamous for this, I hear. "Believe in your "higher power" as you know "him/her" to be." :rolleyes Talk about leading someone down the garden path... STRAIGHT into eternal damnation... :doh :mad

In His love,

Diane Donnelly
April 1st, 2006, 01:48 PM
When we are in God's will, not our own.

Melondy
April 3rd, 2006, 08:12 AM
i know God is the right one simply because of what He has done for me, bringing me through one of the hardest stages in my life, and helping me to grow and mature into a good person. God has taught me to love myself, and to also accept me for me, and others for themselves too. God is just great, is all :D:

goodboy
April 3rd, 2006, 01:20 PM
I think about this a lot. Other then the fact that the bible is right on the money in EVERY single thing, what is the ONE out wards sign that confirms to you that you have the right one (GOD)?

For me, it would have to be the unrelenting hatred and anger toward Jesus. Even mentioning His name angers people..

OK, I have one more.. the hatred of the Jews, again for noo reason at all.

Whats yours?

The date.
It is 2006 AD right?
What does AD stand for?
The "Year of our Lord" right?
Everyone no matter what religion must acknowledge the year and therefore must acknowledge Jesus whether they want to or not.

Goodboy

Morgan
April 3rd, 2006, 01:48 PM
The date.
It is 2006 AD right?
What does AD stand for?
The "Year of our Lord" right?
Everyone no matter what religion must acknowledge the year and therefore must acknowledge Jesus whether they want to or not.

Goodboy

Except, the secular world (and I see this on TV and printed material more and more) has changed it to C.E. stands for Common Era (Instead of Year of Our Lord).

Christnme
April 3rd, 2006, 05:49 PM
I know that I have the right God and I know that I serve a risen Savior because if it were not for God's grace and mercy I would be dead right now. There are so many circumstances and situations that occurred in my life that magnified and exemplfied the one and only true God in all of it. Even during the times that I have backslidden, the Holy Spirit has been ever present coaxing, drawing me back into a relationship with Him.

Sabrina
April 4th, 2006, 01:48 AM
I believe in the Infallible word of God in the Holy Bible EVERY WORD OF IT! I believe that God sent His Son Jesus; as God in the flesh by conception of the Holy Spirit in the vi- rgin womb of Mary, Jesus taught and preformed many miricles, and not by the miracles themselves, but by faith were many people who believed in Him as the Son of God, He was then, as an ad- ult ; Delivered over to be crucified on the cross to shed His blood for many, as the ultimate sacrifice for our sin debt, He then died and rose again on the third day, and is now seated on the right hand of God. Romans Ch.10 vs. 9-11 Matt. Ch.10:32, 38-39 God is the author and Finisher of my faith Hebrews 12:2!