2nd Baptism

[BelieverinGod]

Just a quick question on your opinion.

Being raised Greek Orthodox, I was baptised as an infant, but After leaving Greek orthodoxy because of disagreements, I am pretty much baptist now, I guess, but anyway, my question is this,

Should I be baptised again? As an adult, with my own understanding?

[2Tone]

I think if the Lord is leading you in that direction, you should certainly follow! :):

I think it would be a good thing.

[Richard G]

Yes. As a child, you were a dry sinner, who became a wet sinner.

[BHiles]

This is where the term baptist comes from. Actually anabaptist or rebaptizers is what the Catholic church called those who baptized one who become born again. They called them that before capturing them, torturing them and murdering them in the most vicious of manners.

Anabaptist continued from the third century to this day splitting into five main groups. Baptist, Amish, Mennonite, Quakers and Four Square Brethern/brethern. Today after salvation we still baptize. It is a picture of what Christ did. Being baptized as an infant had no more validity than placing a wedding ring on a child's finger. It only has meaning once one is a believer. It is the first obedient step in the Believer's life.

You have the opportunity unlike your forefathers to be baptized as a believer in public and not fear for your life. They have kept the faith in order that you may have that faith passed to you today. Not only is it honorable for Christ's sake in obedience but it is honorable to them as well.

[BelieverinGod]

Excellent, thank you for your repsonse.

Then my second question is this:

Baptisim, what is salvation without it? being saved without baptisim, what is the feeling?

btw, for leaving the orthodox church, persecution has arrived...from family alone is unbelievable.

[kjlistrom]

Yes, every person as they come to believe in what Christ did on the cross for them personaly, should be baptized soon after.

[BHiles]

Salvation is best represented in a picture God gave us. It is a picture that truly represents the union of the church and Christ. It is the marriage. This picture is so detailed that even in the physical relationship upon culmination it is a taste of heaven on earth just as when we are finally married to Christ it will be Heaven.

That being said. I can say the vow of marriage, truly mean it and be married. However if I do not wear my wedding ring it makes me no less married but I bet my wife would be truly be dissapointed in me as not wanting to be identified as married. That is exactly what baptism does. It identifies one as being Christ's. It is an obedient step. It shows your identification with Him. And it pictures the gospel of Jesus Christ. In one act you take a step of obedience, you tell the world whose you are, and you proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ.

[kjlistrom]

Not being Baptized after is disobeying God, thats sin in Gods eyes.

[2Tone]

Salvation is best represented in a picture God gave us. It is a picture that truly represents the union of the church and Christ. It is the marriage. This picture is so detailed that even in the physical relationship upon culmination it is a taste of heaven on earth just as when we are finally married to Christ it will be Heaven.

That being said. I can say the vow of marriage, truly mean it and be married. However if I do not wear my wedding ring it makes me no less married but I bet my wife would be truly be dissapointed in me as not wanting to be identified as married. That is exactly what baptism does. It identifies one as being Christ's. It is an obedient step. It shows your identification with Him. And it pictures the gospel of Jesus Christ. In one act you take a step of obedience, you tell the world whose you are, and you proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ.

good stuff :thumb

[Harley]

Just a quick question on your opinion.

Being raised Greek Orthodox, I was baptised as an infant, but After leaving Greek orthodoxy because of disagreements, I am pretty much baptist now, I guess, but anyway, my question is this,

Should I be baptised again? As an adult, with my own understanding?
i did

[Enlightenment]

Just a quick question on your opinion.

Being raised Greek Orthodox, I was baptised as an infant, but After leaving Greek orthodoxy because of disagreements, I am pretty much baptist now, I guess, but anyway, my question is this,

Should I be baptised again? As an adult, with my own understanding?

Absolutely. I was baptized as an infant in a Lutheran church. After I truly became a believer when I was a teenager, I was baptized by immersion. You will be blessed by the experience. Invite your family. If they don't want to come, ask them who is being intolerant...

[Enlightenment]

Then my second question is this:

Baptisim, what is salvation without it? being saved without baptisim, what is the feeling?

For me it was kind of like I was holding back proclaiming to the world that I was born again. I really got convicted by Matthew 10:32:

“Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven."

A public baptism definitely confesses Jesus before men.


btw, for leaving the orthodox church, persecution has arrived...from family alone is unbelievable.

Yes, it can be quite a problem. You see, my grandfather was a Lutheran pastor. Stay firm in your beliefs, God will recognize it and reward you for it. Be a good witness but not condescending or holier-than-thou. God bless you.

[BelieverinGod]

I thank you all for your wishes and advice.

Its a hard path to follow..but it must be done.

[inHisarms]

I was baptized as a baby also (my parents are still Lutheran). I was baptized in my late 20's when I became a Southern Baptist. I've been having serious thoughts for 3 -4 years now about getting re-baptized. It started with a thought that I didn't do it for the right reasons the 2nd time (I think I mainly did it to join the church). And I pushed the thought awaybut it kept/keeps coming back. I feel such a pressure to talk with my Pastor but don't do it because I've been embarrassed over it. But after reading this thread, I'm going to talk with him on Sunday.

[lisa]

I was baptised in 5th grade and believed I knew what commitment I was making. But something led me as an adult to do it again, so I was baptised a second time at 23. I know I was saved as a child and was obedient to His calling to be baptised, but as an adult I wanted to rededicate myself to the Lord, in public. It was just an outer display of an inner reality.

[Jacob]

Just a quick question on your opinion.
Being raised Greek Orthodox, I was baptised as an infant, but After leaving Greek orthodoxy because of disagreements, I am pretty much baptist now, I guess, but anyway, my question is this,
Should I be baptised again? As an adult, with my own understanding?

I am not sure if I am understanding correctly what you mean by "disagreements" when you say that is the reason you left greek orthodoxy.

The bible teaches that no religious act, good works, or obedience to the commandments will remove our sins or obtain redemption. "We are saved by grace through faith, and not of ourselves, it is the gift of God, not as the result of works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9).

The apostle Paul wrote: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by His grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus." (Romans 3).

"Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." "For whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" (5:1; 10:13).

This is something that is done on an individual level between the Lord and the person themselves, and can be done anytime, anywhere. The Bible says that there is "one mediatory between God and men, Christ Jesus." No church, denomination, minister or priest, or sacrament can do this. It is between the individual themselves and the Lord.

When you say you left because of "disagreements," did you leave Greek orthodoxy because you discovered the truth that salvation is by grace through faith, and not as the result of our works?

Baptism is a symbolic act. While it does not take away sins, it is a commandment to be obeyed, however, only for those who have been justified by faith and belong the Jesus Christ. In Matthew 28, Jesus commanded the 12 apostles to "make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teach them to obey all that I have commanded." But, notice, it is the "disciples" who are to be baptized. Jesus did not say baptize the unbelievers and make them converts. It is for those who have already been forgiven and entered into a personal relationship with the Lord.

[adamis423]

I was baptized again as an adult too. (Methodist parents) I wanted to make it my public declaration of being born again like enlightenment said.

[AnyDayNow]

Just a quick question on your opinion.

Being raised Greek Orthodox, I was baptised as an infant, but After leaving Greek orthodoxy because of disagreements, I am pretty much baptist now, I guess, but anyway, my question is this,

Should I be baptised again? As an adult, with my own understanding?

I was. Sprinkled at 10 days old in Lutheran church. Then immersed at age 23 in one baptist church (not my own) by a baptist minister who was not my minister nor the minister of the baptist church where I was immersed. Guess I had a true "ecumenical" baptism!

Seriously, some people may view your baptism and see it as a strong testimony of your faith. I would go for it if I were you. :nod

[abkn]

Not being Baptized after is disobeying God, thats sin in Gods eyes.


You're out of your mind. Being saved, by acknolwedging Christ as your saviour and confessing with your mouth that he rose from the dead and is seated on the right hand of God, is all that is needed.

[Patty T]

i did


Me too :thumb

[rtd2]

You're out of your mind. Being saved, by acknolwedging Christ as your saviour and confessing with your mouth that he rose from the dead and is seated on the right hand of God, is all that is needed.



That was Kinda a rude reply! IMHO....That said, I dont totally agree with the OP about Not being baptized is a SIN to GOD but Who would NOT want to do it? I mean CHRIST himself was Baptized and he TOLD us to Be baptized in JESUS NAME for the remission of our sins. So Unless I get killed on the way to being baptized or I have a Physical disabitity Preventing me from being Baptized then I would tell ALL who have Truly repented to do it! JESUS did it and thats enough for me! Remeber what would JESUS DO? well we KNOW what he did~ I have been baptized TWICE! Once at 10 (Didnt know what I was asking for) and again at 19 (when I knew I had repented and was READY to commit to GOD) and shortly after I received the the Gift of the Holy Ghost! :clap Again any reson NOT to be baptized I would be interesting in hearing?

[rtd2]

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism (A favorite of mine)

[BHiles]

That was Kinda a rude reply! IMHO....That said, I dont totally agree with the OP about Not being baptized is a SIN to GOD but Who would NOT want to do it? I mean CHRIST himself was Baptized and he TOLD us to Be baptized in JESUS NAME for the remission of our sins. So Unless I get killed on the way to being baptized or I have a Physical disabitity Preventing me from being Baptized then I would tell ALL who have Truly repented to do it! JESUS did it and thats enough for me! Remeber what would JESUS DO? well we KNOW what he did~ I have been baptized TWICE! Once at 10 (Didnt know what I was asking for) and again at 19 (when I knew I had repented and was READY to commit to GOD) and shortly after I received the the Gift of the Holy Ghost! :clap Again any reson NOT to be baptized I would be interesting in hearing?

I agree wtih you and reported the personal attack before you posted again.

However we must be careful not to tie baptism in water to salvation for salvation. The baptism necessary for salvation is that of the Holy Ghost not of water. Water baptism while a step of obedience and should be done has nothing to do with the salvation of itself no more than wearing a wedding ring makes one married or not. As a baptist it is inherrant in our doctrine as the most important step in one's life after salvation for reasons I have already stated but you might be suprised to know of great men of God who never were baptised and yet still mightily used of God. I don't know why God chose to use them but nevertheless He did.

[newname]

You may want to check out www.PFRS.org for some teaching on this. It's a great site! God bless!

[inHisarms]

You may want to check out www.PFRS.org for some teaching on this. It's a great site! God bless!

I looked up their doctrinal statement. In #8 under their gifts section, they state that one receives the Holy Spirit only upon being baptized.

One receives the Holy Spirit once they become a disciple of Jesus and are saved by Him.

[Changes]

You're out of your mind. Being saved, by acknolwedging Christ as your saviour and confessing with your mouth that he rose from the dead and is seated on the right hand of God, is all that is needed.

:tsk

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[rtd2]

I agree wtih you and reported the personal attack before you posted again.

However we must be careful not to tie baptism in water to salvation for salvation. The baptism necessary for salvation is that of the Holy Ghost not of water. Water baptism while a step of obedience and should be done has nothing to do with the salvation of itself no more than wearing a wedding ring makes one married or not. As a baptist it is inherrant in our doctrine as the most important step in one's life after salvation for reasons I have already stated but you might be suprised to know of great men of God who never were baptised and yet still mightily used of God. I don't know why God chose to use them but nevertheless He did.



Thanks BHiles... and I agree with you we shouldnt tie Baptism to salvation...I agree with you but its hard to stress the importance of it (If possible) W/O it comming across as a salvation issue. GOD bless