Swearing/Cursing?

[Buster alyoop]

I sore another thread on smoking recently and wether or not it was right to do so and there where some very good points but the overall theme was it isnt a salvation issue, and this got me thinking what about swearing/cursing i decided to ask you guys cause i like the feedback and constructive thoughts you come up with!!

God bless:thumb

[rdy4takeoff]

I have been known to lose it and say a few myself. I am not trying to be funny this is a true story I had a squirrel jump on my head and I said the Queen Mother of all cuss words. I also wondered about this. I need feedback too.

[Mindenite]

"3But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. 4Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God." -Ephesians 5:3-5

If it is used in the same passage as "sexual immorality" and "greed," it must be somewhat serious. Like most things, though, it may not be a salvation issue in that one should strive to end the behavior but may not be denied Heaven if the journey is not completed in this life.

[Buster alyoop]

agreed God does take it very seriously even if it may not be a salvation issue it obviously is an issue with God!!

thnx for the scripture

[deafchristian]

(some of these verses mean lying or evil speaking too)

1 Cor. 8:11, "And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?"

Eccl. 5:2, "Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few."

Prov. 14:9, "Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour."
Prov. 8:8, "All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them."

Prov. 4:24, "Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee."

Eph. 4:31, "Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:"

1 Peter 2:21-23, "For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:"

[boxer77]

Again I think it is a testimonial issue, would you believe a person was true if they were f this and f that mother this and mother that if you wernt saved, from a worldly point of view you blend right in with the world, people wont take you serious, and your testimony that Jesus is in you and is real, kinda gets dulled.
And yes I had a potty mouth, every now and then I loose my cool, but then Im right back confesing and wanting to draw closer to Jesus asking for streangth and more self control.

[kayhil]

I've never cursed and never wanted to. I think it's a self-control issue. If I weren't a Christian I still wouldn't have a desire to curse. I think it makes you look and sound unintelligent.

[surferbill777]

Yeah swearing isn;t something we should be doing as believers. I think its more than safe to assume Jesus never dropped any F bombs on the Pharisees :D:
I'm working pretty hard on cleaning up my language personally

[countmeworthy]

The more one focuses on Praising, Worshipping, Praying with Thanksgiving, singing Psalms, Hymns and Spirit Filled songs unto the Lord, the desire to smoke stops. When you get angry and express your displeasure, the Lord will provide you with the proper words to express your anger.

(Remember. The Lord Jesus expressed His anger at the money changers in the Temple. His was a Godly anger. )

When we stumble, we repent, we apply the washing and cleansing of the Power of the Blood of Jesus over us and we go on...not looking back.:thumb

Before too long, we'll become more careful and watchful so we don't keep stumbling and falling flat on our faces !!!!

Stay & Meditate in the Word and our lives WILL be transformed !! :thumb

[BloodoftheLamb]

I still swear occasionally, but before I was saved I think I could hardly speak without swearing, not even one sentence.

And everyone of us has our own stumblingblocks, some of us fight sin constantly, while others have little temptation in life I think...

[carmen]

I found a good writeup on this topic recently. It made a lot of sense to me. I'll post an excerpt and a link here, though I can't vouch for everything on the site; I came across it during a search for some other info, and didn't review the whole site too thoroughly.

http://www.souldevice.org/ethics_cussing.html
Cussing demonstrates an angry individual's lack of self control. However, in cases where cussing is used "correctly" it communicates some form of anger or exasperation. How is this accomplished? As I look over the list of cuss words I find that almost all of them involve perversion. Perversion is the use of a good thing for evil purposes. It is a perversion to speak of sexual intercourse, or God Himself to express sinful anger or violent emotions. When a person cusses they are essentially communicating such anger that only a perversion of goodness can demonstrate. I think it is this perverse state of mind that makes cussing offensive (and effective).

Christians should avoid cussing due to the fact that it is often a perversion of goodness and a sign of intellectual laziness or ignorance - neither of which should characterize a follower of Christ. The Christian should also avoid exposing herself to gratuitous cussing (or any other immoral acts) for the same reasons. This also helps avoid "picking up" cussing as an acceptable form of communication (which can be embarrassing once one is no longer in that crowd!).

[Buster alyoop]

i agree with all that has been said and i to used to have a problem with cursing but havnt cursed for years now as i was lead by the holy spirit to clean my act up!

[Elizabeth0]

I have been known to lose it and say a few myself. I am not trying to be funny this is a true story I had a squirrel jump on my head and I said the Queen Mother of all cuss words. I also wondered about this. I need feedback too.

I have to comment...I've been laughing and laughing about your squirrel encounter. :pound :pound Man, I cant even imagine my response if one jumped on my head!! I hope you werent hurt! :hug

[fiat_lux]

I think abusive, cruel, or blasphemous are more important issues when we're talking about the use of language than the "cursing" being mentioned here. A lot of so-called swearing doesn't appear to obviously fit the "obscenity" or "coarse joking" in the Ephesians verse, on the hand; on the other, I could say some extraordinarily sinful things without any "swearing" whatsoever.

We should be disciplined in what we say, and at least to me, that often means using a lot less swearwords. But the point isn't the swearwords themselves; it's the overall control over choosing our words and meaning what we say. I wouldn't feel the need to beg for forgiveness every time one slips out -- unless it's something already wrong, like taking the Lord's name in vain.

[rdy4takeoff]

Elizabeth No I was not hurt just some cuts and scrapes my pride was hurt the worst.But it practically scared me to death.

[Elizabeth0]

Awww, well that takes the humor out of it. lol Im sorry you got cuts and scrapes!
:D:

[rdy4takeoff]

No It is still funny

[Moony2ns]

I have to comment...I've been laughing and laughing about your squirrel encounter. :pound :pound Man, I cant even imagine my response if one jumped on my head!! I hope you werent hurt! :hug

I have to admit I got quite a giggle from it myself. :lol

[Mindenite]

I think abusive, cruel, or blasphemous are more important issues when we're talking about the use of language than the "cursing" being mentioned here. A lot of so-called swearing doesn't appear to obviously fit the "obscenity" or "coarse joking" in the Ephesians verse, on the hand; on the other, I could say some extraordinarily sinful things without any "swearing" whatsoever.

We should be disciplined in what we say, and at least to me, that often means using a lot less swearwords. But the point isn't the swearwords themselves; it's the overall control over choosing our words and meaning what we say. I wouldn't feel the need to beg for forgiveness every time one slips out -- unless it's something already wrong, like taking the Lord's name in vain.
If I had to draw boundary lines, I would count all profanities as off limits. However, the line would not stop there. In other words, cursing is wrong but it does go beyond the words and into the realm of ideas and mind sets. I would count them both as off limits.

[Paul]

I had a squirrel jump on my head...I hate when that happens.

[markofthebest]

I have been known to lose it and say a few myself. I am not trying to be funny this is a true story I had a squirrel jump on my head and I said the Queen Mother of all cuss words. I also wondered about this. I need feedback too.


I'm sorry, I know you were trying to be serious, but I got this mental picture, and :pound

[rdy4takeoff]

:tsk :tsk :tsk I do not care for squirrels now unless they are pan fried the meat is sweet.

[IbeleiveinJesus]

I'll confess I've sworn, I beleive it to be wrong, and a sin, yet, periodically, it just sort of happens, despite my efforts and good intentions not too.. :redface

While were talking about squirrels though, I once had one pee on my head.. it was unreal... I was sitting under a tree on a clear day, minding my own business... when all of a sudden my head is wet.. feeling rather befuddled I look up, and there is this little squirrel tushie hanging over a branch...

I don't recall if I swore or not.. but it is probably a safe bet..

-Ted

[markofthebest]

I once had one pee on my head.. and there is this little squirrel tushie hanging over a branch...

-Ted

:pound :pound :pound

[EverlastingLife]

Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethern, these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree, my brethern, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh (James 3:10-12)

Cursing here is used in the sense of words spoken against people, words that hurt, tear down and destroy. But cursing in any way always has negetive effects and we should try our best not to curse by staying the the presence of the Lord. It's important to choose our words carefully, our words are weighed by others just as we weigh their words and they can hit hard and stay on our minds. Many times words hurt more than action so it's always important to watch what we say.


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[HeIsEnough]

:tsk :tsk :tsk I do not care for squirrels now unless they are pan fried the meat is sweet.

:freaked

James, The defender of squirrels.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/HeIsEnough/SuperSquirrel.jpg


:tsk

[wsbsteven]

What I don't like is people that replace the word with something else yet give it the same meaning as the original word. The word "smurf" has been used to replace the popular curse words expecially the f-bomb. That bothers me so much.

[mamacags]

I cuss sometimes but at least I don't smoke.:yay

















:heh :bolt

[deafchristian]

What I don't like is people that replace the word with something else yet give it the same meaning as the original word. The word "smurf" has been used to replace the popular curse words expecially the f-bomb. That bothers me so much.

this is a fine example how the world is getting more confusing, and we are closer to home.

[deafchristian]

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[OwnedByJesus]

Ephesians 4:29
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

Proverbs 15:28
The heart of the righteous weighs its answers, but the mouth of the wicked gushes evil.

This one gettes me thinking:
Luke 6:45
The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.

[EverlastingLife]

Ephesians 4:29
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

Proverbs 15:28
The heart of the righteous weighs its answers, but the mouth of the wicked gushes evil.

This one gettes me thinking:
Luke 6:45
The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.

Beautiful Bible references. It doesn't get any simpler. That which is in our heart will also come out in our talk.

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[rdy4takeoff]

James the defender of squirrels They are now my arch nemesis. Don't knock it till you tried it their good eating:hungry

[boxer77]

I cuss sometimes but at least I don't smoke.:yay

















:heh :bolt
:tape :caked

[linda]

Can't get that picture out of my head...:pound:

I'm sorry, but if a squirrel jumped or pee'd on my head, I'd be screaming and some of those screams might contain a few curse words.

[rdy4takeoff]

O.K. here is what happened. I was standing next to my back porch watching my kids playing on the trampoline and I felt somethimg hit my head really hard. At first I thought a ball fell off the roof,but then I felt the moving and clawing. Then I knew something alive was on my head that is when I screamed the word. Then the squirrel jumped from my head to the tree that was next to me. I looked over at my kids who were laughing and I looked around and saw some of my neighbors who were outside looking at me because they have never heard me cuss. worst of all I live on an ally so the word echoed all up and down the street. I was so embarassed .

[walksbyf8h]

:lol :lol :lol

Before I was saved, I used to curse. The H.S. convicted me about that and smoking. I was a 1.5 pack a day, 6-pack of Miller Lite, maniac. :wacko Well......

I prayed about the problems and got the feeling that I should use an old technique as I renewed my mind with The Word since I had ingrained habits.

I put a rubberband that j-u-s-t fit around my wrist. Everytime I said anything that was a cuss word, I'd pull that baby way up and snap my wrist. I tell you what! My scalp just about left town and after a couple of those, my mouth shut up.

The smoking was the most amazing thing. Same time period - I kept trying to quit...nothing. I got upset and started fussing to Jesus, directly. Immediately, no more desire for cigarettes. Can't stand them and cannot imagine how I must have smelled. In fact, once I could smell those other folks stinking to high heaven, I got upset with my friends who hadn't told me that I was reeking! :freaked How are you my friend when you let me walk around offending everything? Just Ms. Le-Pew-Pew...that's ok Walks, be stinky. We love you, Stinky Walks. :tin

Although this verse's context is sexual immorality, I embrace the principle in most instances.

"Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything.


The only way to change the way you think is to change how your mind works. The only way to do that is with the Word of G-d:

Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.

[deafchristian]

I had a squirrel peed on my sleeve before. Out of all my life of Dogs, Cats, kids, nursing homes, etc....A squirrel pee is the worst smell of all! I almost vomit because it smell so horrible. But I didn't cuss.....because I was too busy gagging.

[rdy4takeoff]

:pound Squirrels are no good critters:tsk :yell