Only satan/demons go to hell?

[SeaDreamer]

Someone recently told me they believe that no one but satan and demons go to hell since that's what hell was made for and everyone, by default, is saved. They backed it up scripturally to a certain point but I'm sorry to say I can't remember any details. The circumstances at the time didn't allow me to question them.

I'm perplexed.....is this a common belief among some people? I've honestly NEVER heard this one, at least not from a professed, seemingly authentic christian. :confused

[sracer]

That's an odd belief for a "Christian"... if no one goes to hell, then why the need to accept Jesus as Savior and Lord?

That belief contradicts the Bible in literally 1000's of places... but here are a few verses, a tract, known as "The Roman Road"

Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."

Romans 6:23a, "...The wages of sin is death..."

Romans 6:23b, "...But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Romans 5:8, "God demonstrates His own love for us, in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us!"

Romans 10:13, "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved!"

Romans 10:9,10, "...If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead, you shall be saved; for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation."

[Rev21]

How does that person get around Matthew 25:31-41?

Mat 25:31 But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He shall sit on the throne of His glory.

Mat 25:32 And all nations shall be gathered before Him. And He shall separate them from one another, as a shepherd divides the sheep from the goats.

Mat 25:33 And indeed He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats off the left.

Mat 25:34 Then the King shall say to those on His right hand, Come, blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

Mat 25:35 For I was hungry, and you gave me food; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you took Me in;

Mat 25:36 I was naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.

Mat 25:37 Then the righteous shall answer Him, saying, Lord, when did we see You hungry, and fed You? Or thirsty, and gave You drink?

Mat 25:38 When did we see You a stranger, and took You in? Or naked, and clothed You?

Mat 25:39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and came to You?

Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brothers, you have done it to Me.

Mat 25:41 Then He also shall say to those on the left hand, Depart from Me, you cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels.

[blitzkreig]

I'm perplexed.....is this a common belief among some people? I've honestly NEVER heard this one, at least not from a professed, seemingly authentic christian. :confusedIt is much more common (or variations on this theme) than you might suspect.

The Danger of Universalism (http://www.carm.org/uni/dangerunie.htm)

[Rev21]

Here's some more verses I would like to see them explain:

Matthew 5:29-30

And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.

And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.


Luke 12:5

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.


Matthew 23:33

[Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

[Becky]

Matthew 25:

31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

[JoelH]

Someone recently told me they believe that no one but satan and demons go to hell since that's what hell was made for and everyone, by default, is saved. They backed it up scripturally to a certain point but I'm sorry to say I can't remember any details. The circumstances at the time didn't allow me to question them.

I'm perplexed.....is this a common belief among some people? I've honestly NEVER heard this one, at least not from a professed, seemingly authentic christian. :confused

This is a classic near-liberal "Christian" belief. Not fullblown yet because he person still believes the existence of satan. One of the classical verse to contradict this claim is Rev 20:15:

"And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." (KJV)

Even chruches that don't take the millennial kingdom literally - that means all theologically orthodox mainline Protestant churches and even Christendom like Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox - will believe Rev 20:15 is to be taken literally i.e. there will be people in hell/lake of fire.

YBIC,

Joel

[SeaDreamer]

Ah ha, BK.....the below quote from your link sounds just like what they were saying, they talked A LOT about grace. Mystery solved.

This belief is based upon the idea that God's love is so infinitely great, that His grace in Christ is so awesome, that everyone will be saved.

[SeaDreamer]

I wish I had some mini RR Rangers on my shoulder during times like those. I'm terrible at coming up with things on the spot.

[Rev21]

make sure you don't listen to the ranger with the horns :heh

[Mailman Dan]

Universalist are spreading demonic doctrine at the lowest of levels. They remove hell, and claim everyone will get to heaven. Such doctrines are also JW teachings, and a number of liberal religions.

Remove the fear of God, judgement, and punishment and you remove the reasons for Christ payment for sin, and the reason God gave men to repent.

I wish I had some mini RR Rangers on my shoulder during times like those. I'm terrible at coming up with things on the spot.

Get an Evidence bible.... It has answers to objections people can state.

Here's the answers on hell.

http://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/browse.shtml#cheavenhell


Dan~~~>hopes you find it useful

[countmeworthy]

More Scriptures:

Revelaton 20:10

And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Revelation 20:14-15

Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire This is the second death, the lake of fire.

15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

From these scriptures we see who & what was thrown into the lake of fire where they will be tormented day & night forever & ever:

1) The devil (Satan)

2) the beast

3) the false prophet

4) death & hades

5) ANYONE whose name was not found written in the book of life.

[bopeep1909]

It is a very common belief right now. Alot of people do not believe in a hell.<><

[WisdmInTheWorks]

Someone recently told me they believe that no one but satan and demons go to hell since that's what hell was made for and everyone, by default, is saved. They backed it up scripturally to a certain point but I'm sorry to say I can't remember any details. The circumstances at the time didn't allow me to question them.

I'm perplexed.....is this a common belief among some people? I've honestly NEVER heard this one, at least not from a professed, seemingly authentic christian. :confused

Certainly not scriptural.....

Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

[savedandhappy1]

I also have heard people say that there will be people in hell, but only for alittle time. Once they pay their debt they will either die and or be taken to heaven.

I told them we put degrees on sins not God, and if we haven't excepted Jesus's free gift of salvation then they will not be in heaven.

I have had some athiests tell me that they believe that when they die, if there is a God, that they will be able to say oh you are real. If you had only made it clear to me when I was alive I would have worshiped you, and then God will say of sorry, ok you get to go to heaven.

It is so sad, the delusions that so many have.

[Jiggy37]

Some such as myself would argue that while everyone who's unsaved is thrown into the lake of fire, there's no unambiguous scripture that says people other than the Antichrist, the false prophet, and those who take the mark of the beast burn forever in the lake of fire. (Note that they would still have been in the hell that comes before the lake of fire for the millennial reign.)
Some wording, such as "eternal destruction," can lend itself to an annihilationist perspective (again, for people other than those who are clearly specified to remain in the lake of fire), as can the logical dilemma of what the point of the lake of fire is if hell (Sheol) serves exactly the same purpose; why be temporarily pulled out of hell, where a person burns, and why throw hell into the lake of fire just to throw the person back into the lake of fire and burn some more? Why not just keep hell, if that was the case?
At any rate, that too is just speculation; it's nothing decisive. To me, there's too much ambiguity to definitively say either way.

[BloodoftheLamb]

I think Jonathan Edwards got it right.

[Rev21]

I can see where people might get confused. However, why would Jesus warn people about the dangers of being cast into Hell if they were just going to be annihilated at the Great White throne judgment?

I believe that an eternal salvation of the believers would necessitate an eternal damnation for the unsaved in a righteous judgment.

In an annihilation viewpoint you could (1) accept Jesus as your Saviour and enjoy an eternity in His presence or (2) forsake the gift of salvation and be punished for anywhere from 1 day to 3,000 years before you're snuffed out.



I think Jonathan Edwards got it right.

Sinners in the hands of an angry God. Good sermon.