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LizMusica
September 16th, 2005, 11:25 PM
Whoa its been a crazy week for me... and i miss coming here:(:

anyways my work called and wanted a replacement for sunday 10 to 3, so that means i will miss Church, and there goes the sabath for me. I dont know what to do. I dont know what God thinks about this but i tell him im sorry. My mom thought it would be a good idea that i take this girls place on sunday because i have only started working at this new place for awile now. I dont know what to do. I have already called the girl and sead i would do it only because my mom sead so. So im just trying to obay my parent.

I love going to church i dont want to miss it, but next time this happens i hope to say i cant because im going to church? What do you all think about this?

my question is what would you guys do? Has anybody ever had to work sunday?

PS im hoping to go find a different job this week because my goodness the job i have is too overwhelming with school at hand:faint . I will find something that i will enjoy.

cinlynn
September 16th, 2005, 11:46 PM
He understands whats happening, and He knows your heart. Don't worry about it for this Sunday. But, since you are filling in for someone else, I don't think there's anything wrong with saying 'no' next time. :hug

ATYCLB
September 17th, 2005, 12:51 AM
I dont know what to do. I dont know what God thinks about this but i tell him im sorry.Keep the Sabbath holy by presenting a good witness while
on your shift.

"Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men,
knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as
your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ."
Colossians 3:23, 24

alabama35565
September 17th, 2005, 10:05 AM
i understand what you're going through. when i was in school i also worked as a nurses aide and during the summer i worked different shifts just like the other nurses. years later after i married i worked at a local grocery store, several of the others would not work Sundays because of church , when i asked off for the same reason i was told "no".:(: :cry

Hyssop
September 17th, 2005, 10:22 AM
Good news; Jesus is our sabbath rest, we are no longer under the law. God doesn't hold things against you. I'm sorry you will be missing out on church assembly, but please don't fret about letting God down or something- if we were still being judged/under law then everything Christ did on the cross was in vain. Jesus fulfilled the law- it was perfected and complete in Him, as long as you are in Him you are in good shape- you are a Christian and in Christ you are free, the sabbath is in Him. :):

You can still gather with other believers or do something at church on other days? ... Maybe that is what you could try.

Blessings

p.s. A lot of good people get caught up in trying to follow a set of rules to be accepted or approved of by God, but the whole reason that God sent Jesus is because we cannot be "good enough" the only one who could be good enough- be perfect was our Lord Himself. So, if you ever feel like you aren't doing all the right things to make God happy- remember that you will never be able to do everything perfectly.. your total acceptance and dependence on your redemption (faith)& of Christs perfection and payment in His blood for you is what God wants, not words or observances or perfect church attendance. If the devil gets you down, or guilt gets in your way, just call on the perfection in your Lord and remember he already did it ALL for you! The motivation of your heart is important, not the rules you follow, rest in that.

Eklektos
September 17th, 2005, 10:36 AM
Hi Lizmusica

Hyssop is correct. The Biblical "Sabbath" is the seventh day - Saturday. But, like most of the instructions God gave to the Israelites, the purpose is to show the Amazing work of Jesus. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Sabbath and all of the Isreali festivals given in the Bible. Below is a commentary that helped me to understand this. So, while assembling together IS important and should be done regularly, you don't need to worry about letting Jesus down. =)

Wilson's Dictionary of Bible Types by Walter Lewis Wilson says:

"SABBATH -
The sabbath day is a shadow and a type of the perfect REST which every sinner finds in Christ Jesus when he ceases to work for his own salvation and trusts the Saviour to blot out all his sins, redeem his soul, bring forgiveness, give him eternal life, and make him a child of God. Immediately this friend RESTS in the Lord and begins to keep the true sabbath. This same thought is found also in Heb. 4:9 where the REST which the Lord gives to the trusting soul is compared to the sabbath of the Old Testament. In those days, Israel came to the seventh day, and then RESTED. In our day, the Lord Jesus says, "Come unto Me, and I will give you REST." He is the true sabbath, and He is our sabbath."

So you see, the SABBATH is Jesus. For the Believer, He is our REST, not Saturday or Sunday, but every day.

Colossians 2:16 - Therefore let no one sit in judgment on you in matters of food and drink, or with regard to a feast day or a New Moon or a SABBATH.

Hebrews 4:9 - So then, there is still awaiting a full and complete SABBATH-rest reserved for the [true] people of God

70thWeek
September 17th, 2005, 01:00 PM
What schedule did you put on your application? If you said that you can't work on Sundays on your application, then (as I understand it, and I am not a lawyer, I'm a biblical scholar and librarian, so take it for what it's worth) they can't force you to work another shift, but can ask you to.

blitzkreig
September 17th, 2005, 05:54 PM
Good news; Jesus is our sabbath rest, we are no longer under the law. God doesn't hold things against you. I'm sorry you will be missing out on church assembly, but please don't fret about letting God down or something- if we were still being judged/under law then everything Christ did on the cross was in vain. Jesus fulfilled the law- it was perfected and complete in Him, as long as you are in Him you are in good shape- you are a Christian and in Christ you are free, the sabbath is in Him. :):

You can still gather with other believers or do something at church on other days? ... Maybe that is what you could try.

Blessings

p.s. A lot of good people get caught up in trying to follow a set of rules to be accepted or approved of by God, but the whole reason that God sent Jesus is because we cannot be "good enough" the only one who could be good enough- be perfect was our Lord Himself. So, if you ever feel like you aren't doing all the right things to make God happy- remember that you will never be able to do everything perfectly.. your total acceptance and dependence on your redemption (faith)& of Christs perfection and payment in His blood for you is what God wants, not words or observances or perfect church attendance. If the devil gets you down, or guilt gets in your way, just call on the perfection in your Lord and remember he already did it ALL for you! The motivation of your heart is important, not the rules you follow, rest in that.ANOTHER one of you, you, you ...... literal Bible readers ... !!!




:nod :whoo

Louie
September 18th, 2005, 12:04 AM
Once you back down and work on a Sunday, they'll know you don't mean it about not working Sundays and they will ask you to do it again.

This isn't really about whether working on Sundays is permissible..it's about your own personal convictions on the subject, what has God told you?

StarVoyager
September 18th, 2005, 07:00 AM
Good news; Jesus is our sabbath rest, we are no longer under the law. God doesn't hold things against you. I'm sorry you will be missing out on church assembly, but please don't fret about letting God down or something- if we were still being judged/under law then everything Christ did on the cross was in vain. Jesus fulfilled the law- it was perfected and complete in Him, as long as you are in Him you are in good shape- you are a Christian and in Christ you are free, the sabbath is in Him. :):

You can still gather with other believers or do something at church on other days? ... Maybe that is what you could try.

Blessings

p.s. A lot of good people get caught up in trying to follow a set of rules to be accepted or approved of by God, but the whole reason that God sent Jesus is because we cannot be "good enough" the only one who could be good enough- be perfect was our Lord Himself. So, if you ever feel like you aren't doing all the right things to make God happy- remember that you will never be able to do everything perfectly.. your total acceptance and dependence on your redemption (faith)& of Christs perfection and payment in His blood for you is what God wants, not words or observances or perfect church attendance. If the devil gets you down, or guilt gets in your way, just call on the perfection in your Lord and remember he already did it ALL for you! The motivation of your heart is important, not the rules you follow, rest in that.

:clap :laugh :clap

Amen.

Peace - Patrick ><>

LoveHim
September 18th, 2005, 07:40 AM
StarVoyager,
But there needs to be one day of the week set aside for rest and exclusive focus on the Lord. God rested on the 7th day, and He set that apart as a pattern for us to follow. God designed our bodies and knows that we need to rest one day a week for good mental, spritirual, and physical health.

Even though we are under grace, we still need to follow this command, as we do the other nine commandments. God didn't change on that. Just like tithing.

God also tells us not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together.

4everHis
September 18th, 2005, 07:45 AM
StarVoyager,
But there needs to be one day of the week set aside for rest and exclusive focus on the Lord. God rested on the 7th day, and He set that apart as a pattern for us to follow. God designed our bodies and knows that we need to rest one day a week for good mental, spritirual, and physical health.

Even though we are under grace, we still need to follow this command, as we do the other nine commandments. God didn't change on that. Just like tithing.

But it doesn't have to be Sunday!

Think of all the people who have to work on Sunday. Not just those who choose to like clerks in a store or restaurants where you go after church but Doctors, Policemen, Firemen, Pilots, Weathermen, the list goes on and on. Life does not stop because it's Sunday.

For many people Sunday is a work day and maybe Wednesday is their Sunday.....

cameron222
September 18th, 2005, 07:54 AM
Someone once said that going to church doesn't make you a christian any more than going to MacDonalds makes you a hamburger.

But of course we should be a part of a church body and worship with our fellow christians.

But God knows and will judge you by your heart, not your church attendance.

Your witness to someone in the work place on this Lord's day may have a greater impact than sitting in a pew waiting for lunch.

ipjones6000
September 18th, 2005, 10:43 AM
Jesus healed on the Sabbath. Remember how the Jews got upset about that?

GloryBound
September 18th, 2005, 01:17 PM
My brother has always had his kids put down on their job applications that they can't work on Sunday. Then if they get the job, they aren't harassed about it. YOu can't ask after you are hired. Well, you can ask, but they will never say "yes.

I'm a nurse. I worked in hospitals for 25 years, weekends included. It's part of the job. Lots of ministry opportunities came up. Sundays especially. But now, I work for a doctor. When I interviewed, I knew he used nurses to make hospital rounds with him on weekends. So I said "no Sundays". I teach Sunday School, and another bible class then. I've been asked to change my mind, but I won't. BUT, I have a skill that the other RN's don't have that makes me "needed" in the office during the week, and that also motivates them to have me not work weekends, including Saturdays, which I haven't refused to do.

StarVoyager
September 19th, 2005, 07:27 AM
StarVoyager,
But there needs to be one day of the week set aside for rest and exclusive focus on the Lord. God rested on the 7th day, and He set that apart as a pattern for us to follow. God designed our bodies and knows that we need to rest one day a week for good mental, spritirual, and physical health.

Even though we are under grace, we still need to follow this command, as we do the other nine commandments. God didn't change on that. Just like tithing.

God also tells us not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together.

Why is this pointed out to me in particular just because I happen to stongly agree with it?

As far as a day of rest, I sometimes get one or two or three. It just so happens that none of my "days of rest" coincide with the day that I am able to go to church. I have to work on Sundays and every other Wednesday. I do not set aside a day for exclusive focus on the Lord. I focus each day as much as I possibly can on The Lord and I know He understands that because of the position He has placed me in, He understands. I know this is the case because He continues to bless me.

Believe me, I would love to be able to attend regular church services with other Christian Believers. But that isn't the way it is for now. I am in a proffession that is required 24/7/365, and my part of it precludes regular Church atttendance.

That's just the way it is.

And one more thing - My wife and I do not tithe our salaries because of the tithing rule - we do it as offerings. We are under Grace, not Law.

Peace - Patrick ><>

chel0524
September 19th, 2005, 02:19 PM
I have an interesting story about working on Sunday. Our former pastor and his wife and been trying for almost 11 years to have a baby with no luck. The pastor's job changed companies and they wanted him to start working on Sunday's. He explained to them that he was a pastor at a church and could not work Sunday's. They said work or be fired. He quit on the spot.

Well, they were pregnant within a month. They now have 2 beautiful kids. He had to take a job at a local sawmill to make ends meet, but his life has been blessed with so much more.

Another side note. My father in law does not believe in working on Sunday. However, he will make exceptions if "the ox is in the ditch". That means if you have started on a project and something happens, you have to finish it. We have a farm and sometimes in the summer and fall during hay hauling time, it has to be done on Sunday or the whole lot of hay would be lost due to rain, moisture, whatever.

LizMusica
September 19th, 2005, 06:38 PM
On my application i wrote that i couldnt work saterday mornings, neither wed afternoons because i have music lessons, but then i asked my mom if i could get off on sundays because of the sabbath and she just sead OH LIZ! so i guess its too late.:(: I was actually very upset about me having to work on sunday. That day i had checked my skedual for next week and it looks like im working sunday again.:tape :rolleyes Anyways im thinking about quiting my job, and instead I will teach guitar. I think that would be a good idea, and i would already have my week set so i wouldnt have to always check back on my skedual. This time no sundays.

I know i should put God first in my life but its all about what my parents want and they want me to continue ahead with my music, although they dont relize the importance of sundays (spiritualy).

sorry for making this such a big deal:redface

liz

pilgrimian
September 20th, 2005, 04:49 AM
Good news; Jesus is our sabbath rest, we are no longer under the law. God doesn't hold things against you. I'm sorry you will be missing out on church assembly, but please don't fret about letting God down or something- if we were still being judged/under law then everything Christ did on the cross was in vain. Jesus fulfilled the law- it was perfected and complete in Him, as long as you are in Him you are in good shape- you are a Christian and in Christ you are free, the sabbath is in Him. :):

You can still gather with other believers or do something at church on other days? ... Maybe that is what you could try.

Blessings

p.s. A lot of good people get caught up in trying to follow a set of rules to be accepted or approved of by God, but the whole reason that God sent Jesus is because we cannot be "good enough" the only one who could be good enough- be perfect was our Lord Himself. So, if you ever feel like you aren't doing all the right things to make God happy- remember that you will never be able to do everything perfectly.. your total acceptance and dependence on your redemption (faith)& of Christs perfection and payment in His blood for you is what God wants, not words or observances or perfect church attendance. If the devil gets you down, or guilt gets in your way, just call on the perfection in your Lord and remember he already did it ALL for you! The motivation of your heart is important, not the rules you follow, rest in that.

Exactly, Hyssop! Good to see you!!! I pray all is well with your family--including all fingers and toes!

Yes, it is an amazing thing that some people have been taught that Sunday is the Sabbath. There is no Scripture to warrant this, and unfortunately much confusion about the issue.

And I'm much more interested in the glory which surpasses the law (the ministration of death--2 Cor. 3:7). The ministration of the Spirit far exceeds that which was fading--the laws have no comparison to that glory which has come in the Law of Messiah (Gal. 6:2).

Blessings,
Matthew

pilgrimian
September 20th, 2005, 04:55 AM
On my application i wrote that i couldnt work saterday mornings, neither wed afternoons because i have music lessons, but then i asked my mom if i could get off on sundays because of the sabbath and she just sead OH LIZ! so i guess its too late.:(: I was actually very upset about me having to work on sunday. That day i had checked my skedual for next week and it looks like im working sunday again.:tape :rolleyes Anyways im thinking about quiting my job, and instead I will teach guitar. I think that would be a good idea, and i would already have my week set so i wouldnt have to always check back on my skedual. This time no sundays.

I know i should put God first in my life but its all about what my parents want and they want me to continue ahead with my music, although they dont relize the importance of sundays (spiritualy).

sorry for making this such a big deal:redface

liz

Have you read any of the responses to your original post?

The importance of Sundays?

It's interesting. I love assembly on Saturday now--actually it has made Sunday a real day of rest since I spend all Saturday at congregation. But, as Hyssop said our Sabbath is in Messiah.

Colossians 2:

16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.