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BornSinner
June 27th, 2005, 05:55 PM
Intrumental music is never mentioned in the New Testament, does that make using instruments in worship wrong?

cameron222
June 27th, 2005, 06:29 PM
Air conditioning isn't mentioned either, but we would be in a jam without it.

Music is to glorify God. If the instruments are used to praise Him, then by all means use them.

Patty T
June 27th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Intrumental music is never mentioned in the New Testament, does that make using instruments in worship wrong?

Oh, but they are mentioned brother :nod

Psalm 150:

Psa 150:1 Praise the LORD! Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in His mighty expanse.

Psa 150:2 Praise Him for His mighty deeds; Praise Him according to His excellent greatness.

Psa 150:3 Praise Him with trumpet sound; Praise Him with harp and lyre.

Psa 150:4 Praise Him with timbrel and dancing; Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe.

Psa 150:5 Praise Him with loud cymbals; Praise Him with resounding cymbals.

Psa 150:6 Let everything that has breath praise the LORD. Praise the LORD!

BornSinner
June 27th, 2005, 08:53 PM
Air conditioning isn't mentioned either, but we would be in a jam without it.

Music is to glorify God. If the instruments are used to praise Him, then by all means use them.

That's what I think too, but my friend says it's the wrong way to worship
:confused

antsinmypants
June 27th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Sounds like you're mixed up with someone in the "Church of Christ" group. They seem to think because music isn't mentioned (other than singing hymns and psalms) that it didn't occur.

However, if people would bother to study what was done within the Temple and in the Synogogue services before the destruction of the Temple, they will find it was a very musical place, that women danced during the feasts and sabbaths (as did the men), and played tamborines.. that the preists played instruments and sang the psalms and scriptures..

People within the synogogues and home groups (who were run in the homes of people who worked within the synogogue systems, as scriptures couldn't be easily accessed otherwise)-- sang these same hymns and scriptures, and some more than likely played instruments too.

Harley
June 27th, 2005, 09:59 PM
Intrumental music is never mentioned in the New Testament, does that make using instruments in worship wrong?
I've wondered how people decide which things that are not mentioned should be avoided. I mean - geesh - most everything in my church is not mentioned in the Bible.

OscarTheOnion
June 27th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Air conditioning isn't mentioned either, but we would be in a jam without it.

:lol

kenneth
June 28th, 2005, 01:08 AM
I do not see alter calls in the New Testament.

Elizabeth_S
June 28th, 2005, 01:13 AM
I do not see alter calls in the New Testament.
A public confession of giving yourself to Christ is not in the bible? :confused

Harley
June 28th, 2005, 09:37 AM
A public confession of giving yourself to Christ is not in the bible? :confused
Public confession - in there... altar calls as a method - not in there.

Ladybug
June 28th, 2005, 09:39 AM
Oh, but they are mentioned brother :nod

Psalm 150:

Psa 150:1 Praise the LORD! Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in His mighty expanse.

Psa 150:2 Praise Him for His mighty deeds; Praise Him according to His excellent greatness.

Psa 150:3 Praise Him with trumpet sound; Praise Him with harp and lyre.

Psa 150:4 Praise Him with timbrel and dancing; Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe.

Psa 150:5 Praise Him with loud cymbals; Praise Him with resounding cymbals.

Psa 150:6 Let everything that has breath praise the LORD. Praise the LORD!


That's the Old Testament, not the New Testament. ;):

nooneuno
June 28th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Ephesians 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are] thy ways, thou King of saints.

nooneuno
June 28th, 2005, 10:14 AM
P.S. The voice IS an instrument. :nod

70thWeek
June 28th, 2005, 10:15 AM
Intrumental music is never mentioned in the New Testament, does that make using instruments in worship wrong?

Wearing pants isn't mentioned either... Preaching from a pulpit, pews, get my idea?

nooneuno
June 28th, 2005, 10:17 AM
I Cor. 14:7-8
Yet even lifeless things, either flute or harp, in producing a sound, if they do not produce a distinction in the tones, how will it be known what is played on the flute or on the harp? For if the bugle produces an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle? So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.

antsinmypants
June 28th, 2005, 10:22 AM
Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are] thy ways, thou King of saints.

To sing the song of Moses, they have to have figured out the musical code in the passage to sing it, and play it on instruments as it was done.

There are people right now still trying to work on it.

70thWeek
June 28th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Paul said to sing with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. I don't think that it is too much of a stretch to assume that musical instruments are included in that.

antsinmypants
June 28th, 2005, 10:37 AM
Paul said to sing with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. I don't think that it is too much of a stretch to assume that musical instruments are included in that.

There isn't, because the Psalms verse #s are chords to be played in, and each letter of the word is a key to play them in ;):

70thWeek
June 28th, 2005, 10:40 AM
plus hymns and spiritual songs

HeIsEnough
June 28th, 2005, 10:43 AM
That's what I think too, but my friend says it's the wrong way to worship
:confused

Soooo...what did your friend say the right way to worship is?

Maria
June 28th, 2005, 01:50 PM
Intrumental music is never mentioned in the New Testament, does that make using instruments in worship wrong?

A variety of instruments were used in David's Tabernacle. He instituted a different kind of worship with new instruments, dancing, clapping, joyful noise... Chronicles Chapters 13, 14, 15, and 16...

The Salms are full of David's kind of praise...

Eventhough it is in the Old Testament, the Bible also tell us in Amos 9:11 and Acts 15:16-17 that God will restore this kind of worship because it has fallen....

I think that we are beggining to see this restoration... Worship is different now a days... It is less ritualistic and repetitive and more giving, surrender, postrating one before God in humility... singing and playing our instruments with everything we have, because we owe everything to God... :):

You can study and consider the TAbernacle of Moses and David's to see the difference between the two... There is a lot there to learn form...

Corey
June 30th, 2005, 01:40 AM
Paul said to sing with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. I don't think that it is too much of a stretch to assume that musical instruments are included in that.

What's the Biblical definition of a psalm? How were psalms sung, well, in the book of Psalms?

edited to add: whoops, Ants said it first and much better than I :redface

Doobie56
June 30th, 2005, 10:59 AM
I was taught that if it didn't edify Christ THEN it isn't of God.

Sometimes I feel that until one spends some time in a real Prayer and Worship service in which there is instruments played and people singing and clapping they havn't had a good experience in Worshiping and Praise of Jesus. But that is just my opinion of course. Hey, Praise breaks the Strongholds...I Love Praise and Worship, it makes me feel close to God.