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ConservPride
June 23rd, 2005, 09:27 PM
I was watching O'Reilly Factor tonight and Franklin Graham was a guest. They were talking about whether the fight with the Muslims is a holy war. Anyway, they both said something to the affect of "My God is not a God of vengeance."

I believe they said this because of the Muslims beliefs in killing infidels and that as Christians we are not called to commit violence against those who are not believers/those who are our enemies. However, I disagree with the statement that God is not a God of vengeance.


Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Franklin Graham also talked about the battle of Armageddon, and how good would triumph over evil. This in itself proves that God does take revenge, and does punish.

antitox
June 24th, 2005, 09:39 AM
I took it to mean that he was seeking to convey that God's focus is not on vengeance, but saving and restoration.

HeIsEnough
June 24th, 2005, 09:51 AM
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.


This verse does not say God is a 'God of vengeance' It says that vengeance is His to pay.

Linked with this verse, is the very concept that it is not our right to repay with our vengeance, it is God's right.

Islam, apparently requires/allows it's adherents the right to 'pay' the vengeance of their god upon those who do them wrong, which is forbidden in this verse for a christian. Like sheep to the slaughter...

SeaDreamer
June 24th, 2005, 01:06 PM
However, I disagree with the statement that God is not a God of vengeance.

I agree with you. I was going to post some scriptures on God and vengeance but there are too many. :):