Starting to belive there is NO HELL

[hagar]

I am starting to belive that there is no hell and that it is symbolic and not literal. And the rapture also. because what if its the EMP that everyone is afrade of? Because what if the nuclear EMP goes off and alot of prople vaporize? Like isreal being a woman and the book of revalations is symbolic. Alot of the stuff in the bible is symbolic so what if hell does not exsist and is only symbolic and not literell??

[cinlynn]

I am starting to belive that there is no hell and that it is symbolic and not literal. And the rapture also. because what if its the EMP that everyone is afrade of? Because what if the nuclear EMP goes off and alot of prople vaporize? Like isreal being a woman and the book of revalations is symbolic. Alot of the stuff in the bible is symbolic so what if hell does not exsist and is only symbolic and not literell??

Let's start at the beginning... First.. what is EMP? :confused

[hagar]

EMP= Electro megnetic pulse

[cinlynn]

EMP= Electro megnetic pulse

Oh, Ok. And a lot of people are afraid they will be vaporized because of a nuclear Electro Magnetic Pulse?


As for whether or not hell is symbolic. You know that Jesus taught many times using parables. When He taught in this manner, He always made it clear that He was using a parable as an illustration to get His message across.. I think, if you will do a study on Jesus' teaching about hell.. you will quickly find that in almost all cases.. He is NOT teaching using a parable, but rather He is being perfectly literal. :):

[MrMannn]

If hell isn't real, then what did Jesus save us from?
Jesus died and was resurected so we wouldn't have to go to hell. That was the whole point. Otherwise why did He go to all that effort, for nothing?

God is perfect. His laws are perfect. There is NO way imperfect man can obey every single law...we ALL have fallen short of the perfect law. We ALL sin.

-->The penalty for failing God's law(sisn) is eternity in Hell!

Jesus took our punishment upon Himself, and freed us from Hell. Jesus is the bridge to God. By believing in Him, we are free of the consequences of sin.

Yes, hell is real. We are told that many times. It was created to punish the fallen angels, and its big enough to hold all the humans who choose to go there. No one rules hell, satan will burn just like everyone else who's condemed.

It is a lake of fire. There is no shore, no islands, no shallow end. No one ever gets used to the torment. There is no end to hell. It is eternal.

Being aware of hell means there is no excuse.

Getting to heaven ought to be the goal. Heaven is not reached by good deeds or being good enough. Jesus is the bridge. He freely offers eternity in heaven to any who will believe in His name. It is by faith we are saved, not works.

But Jesus is the ONLY way. Allah, Budah, Hari Krishna are unable to get anyone into heaven.

If there is a heaven, then there is a hell. Believe it.

[Morningstarlet]

Luke 16:22-24

The rich man was in flames, and begged Lazarus to dip his finger in water and cool his tongue. Sounds pretty literal to me.

[Larry B]

I am starting to belive that there is no hell and that it is symbolic and not literal. [QUOTE]And the rapture also. because what if its the EMP that everyone is afrade of? Because what if the nuclear EMP goes off and alot of prople vaporize? Like isreal being a woman and the book of revalations is symbolic. Alot of the stuff in the bible is symbolic so what if hell does not exsist and is only symbolic and not literell??[/QUOTE[QUOTE]]
:wave Usually, when the Bible is speaking "SYMBOLICALLY", it SAYS: "like a" or "as a", or something that gives you a "Word Picture".:nod Revelation is full of SYMBOLISM, because John the Revelator was a FIRST century man trying to describe 21st Century "Warfare", and means of God's WRATH! :freaked Most of the Bible is LITERAL, and MOST of Revelation is LITERAL, except where John is trying to describe something he had never seen, or some things like "the 24 Elders seated on Thrones with gold crowns", which is a picture of ALL "saved" people in God (Old and New Testament), UP THROUGH the Rapture! :clap When Paul told Christians the "Mystery" about the Rapture in Thessalonians and Corinthians), he was being VERY LITERAL!! :): Likewise, the SEVEN Churches shown in Revelation ARE the SEVEN "types of believers" in 7 REAL "Churches" in John's day, through the centuries of Christianity, and in EXISTENCE NOW, and up UNTIL the RAPTURE!! After the Rapture, the Christians are seated on thrones, wearing gold crowns, because they have ALREADY BEEN to the Bema Seat with Christ, and have been "REWARDED"!! :clap Even though it is NOT A SALVATION issue, believing in the Rapture means you ARE LOOKING for CHRIST'S RETURN for His Bride, and there is a CROWN for EVERY BELIEVER who does this!! Also, Revelation is LITERAL about the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT, ONLY FOR UNBELEVERS, where, after this judgment by God, ALL THESE PEOPLE will be CAST INTO the LAKE of FIRE, where the False Prophet, the Antichrist, and Satan and his angels, will be FOREVER and EVER!! :freaked :faint :eek :help

[Beth Marie]

I believe hell is real. I also believe that the physical torment will not be the thing that bothers us most, and the lake of fire is the least of our problems.

God is everything that is good in the world, everything that is true. Our breath, our essence, the spark of life in ours eyes, all the love. He is the light. Hell is the seperation of this-you will be eternally seperated from anything a sane person should live for. Maybe fire is the only way to describe the agony of the soul in hell.

A person can say if someone they loves dies, it's like they were stabbed in the heart. You really aren't, but it hurts so much you wish you were.

That's just my interpretation. I'm glad our debts are paid and that I won't ever have to learn the details of hell in person.

[Benja32one]

I am starting to belive that there is no hell and that it is symbolic and not literal. And the rapture also. because what if its the EMP that everyone is afrade of? Because what if the nuclear EMP goes off and alot of prople vaporize? Like isreal being a woman and the book of revalations is symbolic. Alot of the stuff in the bible is symbolic so what if hell does not exsist and is only symbolic and not literell??
:nod
Hagar, when you begin to wonder about bible doctrine, you are wandering around in the devil's territory. You will find yourself in a spiritual desert with a small bottle of water, under a bush, wondering all sorts of things. You will not notice the slide toward unhappy beliefs until it is too late. What other doctrines are you wondering about? The Son of God? Heaven? Sin? Judgment?
The greek word for deceive is 'planae'and it means to wander, being mis-led by another. Make no mistake about it, when we doubt the goodness and severity of God, we are in a wilderness with all sorts of other ogres. The scripture says, "The devil as a roaring lion walketh about seeking whom he may devour," 1 Peter 5.8. Insinuation is his method from the beginning to instigate doubt in the believer and unbeliever alike. But praise God! There is a remedy for this condition for the believer....James 4.7: "Resist the devil and he will flee from you." Make no mistake, you are in a dark precarious place.
Thank God........

19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do
well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,
until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any
private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy
men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Peter 1.19-21

Without God's Word we are spiritual wanderers in a desert of doubt.
:nod

[Larry B]

:nod
Hagar, when you begin to wonder about bible doctrine, you are wandering around in the devil's territory. You will find yourself in a spiritual desert with a small bottle of water, under a bush, wondering all sorts of things. You will not notice the slide toward unhappy beliefs until it is too late. What other doctrines are you wondering about? The Son of God? Heaven? Sin? Judgment?
The greek word for deceive is 'planae'and it means to wander, being mis-led by another. Make no mistake about it, when we doubt the goodness and severity of God, we are in a wilderness with all sorts of other ogres. The scripture says, "The devil as a roaring lion walketh about seeking whom he may devour," 1 Peter 5.8. Insinuation is his method from the beginning to instigate doubt in the believer and unbeliever alike. But praise God! There is a remedy for this condition for the believer....James 4.7: "Resist the devil and he will flee from you." Make no mistake, you are in a dark precarious place.
Thank God........

19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do
well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,
until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any
private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy
men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Peter 1.19-21

Without God's Word we are spiritual wanderers in a desert of doubt.
:nod
Preach it, Brother!! After I left RR last night, I talked with my wife about this thread. She told me the REAL DANGER when Christians BEGIN to DOUBT, is that it is a "SLIPPERY SLOPE" which slides right DOWN into APOSTASY!! :faint If we DOUBT the "SMALL things", it won't be very long, before we begin to DOUBT that God EXISTS, and that Jesus Christ is our SAVIOR!! :doh :freaked :twitch It is the SAME TACTIC that Satan used on Eve!! "Has God said????" Most temptations begin with THOSE WORDS in our MINDS!! :freaked Hagar, my Brother, get yourself in the WORD!! Read Ephesians, chapter 6, about "Spiritual Warfare", and how God has ALREADY "EQUIPPED" us for the battles!! The Word of God is called "the Sword of the Spirit", which is the Word of God!! Pray to the Lord, and ask Him to give you a real "hunger" for His Word, and tell Him that you are DEPENDING on Him, through His Holy Spirit to guide you and strengthen you! Jude 1:20, "But, you, beloved, BUILDING UP YOURSELVES in YOUR most holy FAITH, PRAYING in the Holy Spirit, KEEP YOURSELVES in the LOVE of GOD, LOOKING for the MERCY of our LORD, Jesus Christ UNTO ETERNAL LIFE." I shorted myself on sleep last night, because YOUR DOUBTS WORRIED ME, Hagar!! :(: Jude !:22-23 COMPELS me to reach out to you, "And of some have compassion, making a difference; And OTHERS SAVE with FEAR, PULLING (SNATCHING) THEM OUT of the FIRE; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." You are in DANGER, and if there is ANYTHING I or Ben can DO to "help" you, PLEASE "PM" either one of us!! Don't worry- anything you are going through can be NO WORSE than things I have gone through in my life, BELIEVE me!! ;): YBIC, Larry B.

[Harley]

Luke 16:22-24

The rich man was in flames, and begged Lazarus to dip his finger in water and cool his tongue. Sounds pretty literal to me.
I believe in a literal Hell, but I don't think this text can be used to prove it. Unless you believe it also teaches that those in Hell and those not, can shout at each other.

[Benja32one]

Preach it, Brother!! After I left RR last night, I talked with my wife about this thread. She told me the REAL DANGER when Christians BEGIN to DOUBT, is that it is a "SLIPPERY SLOPE" which slides right DOWN into APOSTASY!! :faint If we DOUBT the "SMALL things", it won't be very long, before we begin to DOUBT that God EXISTS, and that Jesus Christ is our SAVIOR!! :doh :freaked :twitch It is the SAME TACTIC that Satan used on Eve!! "Has God said????" Most temptations begin with THOSE WORDS in our MINDS!! :freaked Hagar, my Brother, get yourself in the WORD!! Read Ephesians, chapter 6, about "Spiritual Warfare", and how God has ALREADY "EQUIPPED" us for the battles!! The Word of God is called "the Sword of the Spirit", which is the Word of God!! Pray to the Lord, and ask Him to give you a real "hunger" for His Word, and tell Him that you are DEPENDING on Him, through His Holy Spirit to guide you and strengthen you! Jude 1:20, "But, you, beloved, BUILDING UP YOURSELVES in YOUR most holy FAITH, PRAYING in the Holy Spirit, KEEP YOURSELVES in the LOVE of GOD, LOOKING for the MERCY of our LORD, Jesus Christ UNTO ETERNAL LIFE." I shorted myself on sleep last night, because YOUR DOUBTS WORRIED ME, Hagar!! :(: Jude !:22-23 COMPELS me to reach out to you, "And of some have compassion, making a difference; And OTHERS SAVE with FEAR, PULLING (SNATCHING) THEM OUT of the FIRE; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." You are in DANGER, and if there is ANYTHING I or Ben can DO to "help" you, PLEASE "PM" either one of us!! Don't worry- anything you are going through can be NO WORSE than things I have gone through in my life, BELIEVE me!! ;): YBIC, Larry B.

:wave
Amen.
:nod :thumb

[Hootmon]

Just as an aside...

An EMP wouldnt 'vaporize' anything. However it would really mess with any electronics equipment, especially solid-state stuff like Computers

[Slightly Miffed]

I am starting to belive that there is no hell and that it is symbolic and not literal. And the rapture also. because what if its the EMP that everyone is afrade of? Because what if the nuclear EMP goes off and alot of prople vaporize? Like isreal being a woman and the book of revalations is symbolic. Alot of the stuff in the bible is symbolic so what if hell does not exsist and is only symbolic and not literell??
:hrm Just FYI: an EMP doesn't do all that much evaporating.

[Slightly Miffed]

:yay This new method of only reading the first few posts and then replying is starting to pay off. Twice in one day already! :whoo

[ToBpleasing]

Hagar, take heed, not offense at the enlightened posts listed above. Satan is the father of lies and since he has decieved himself, he looks to instill doubt and deceit in others. He hates christians and looks to cause us to fall at every opportunity. Also, to further add to what has already been said about scripture, in general: You will never see references in scripture about clothing, customs, fads, etc. (anything that is trendy or subject to change or limited to a certain period of time).
Because the Word of God, as well as how He has chosen to speak His truths through the contributors of the bible, is written in a "timeless" fashion, so as to apply to all peoples of all times. There is symbolism used in different parts of the bible, but other times, general or vague terms are used to 'not limit' His unlimited truths to any one situation. There is a hell and there is a heaven, deep inside the Holy Spirit convicts you of that. God bless...

[Hootmon]

This new method of only reading the first few posts and then replying is starting to pay off. Except that I had already posted the same thing you did BEFORE you did...

[antsinmypants]

The bible does teach a literal hell, and we do find that YHVH at one point in the "end of time" as we know it as humans, at the Judgement, puts Hell and Death in the Lake of Fire, known as the second death, where the people who rejected him, and the fallen angels (aka demons) go.

If it weren't a literal place being put into or at another literal place, how would it be symbolic? We're told it's fire, and that it's eternal pain and seperation from YHVH... what can be more literal than that?

[Average Joey]

I am starting to belive that there is no hell and that it is symbolic and not literal.


Was thinking this done out of an emotional response to it?One thing that certainly is not symbolic is the judgement seat of Christ.

Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Mat 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[Ladybug]

Just as an aside...

An EMP wouldnt 'vaporize' anything. However it would really mess with any electronics equipment, especially solid-state stuff like Computers

Wouldn't it cause nuclear fallout, however? (Asking you since you're the first poster :heh)

[Transformed]

Hagar, go back to the very beginning, when Satan conned Eve into thinking that God didn't really mean it when He said they would die if they ate of the fruit. Satan planted a seed of doubt. Doubt leads to disobedience. In 1 Sam 15:23, scripture says that "rebellion is as the sin of divination." Disobedience is essentially self-worship, and that equals idolatry. Rejecting God's word is rejecting God. Please don't do that.

[Hootmon]

Wouldn't it cause nuclear fallout, however? (Asking you since you're the first poster :heh)Any nuclear detonation produces some form of fallout. The amount and type depends on the nature of the blast.

If your intention is to totally destroy the enemy, then an EMP-specific blast doenst make a lot of sense. You would want a big dirty bomb for that.

However, if you are merely trying to disable a technological foe while minimizing fallout, then it makes a lot of sense. Bombing them into the Stone Age, if you will...

[Mindenite]

I don't see the problem, really. Hell is, by all defintions, separation from God. Once someone is fully and eternally separated from God, that person will truly know what s/he missed out on and will be in eternal torment regardless of eternal torture. In other words, the fire that is typical in most definitions of hell would not even be the real punishment. I've often wondered if God's mercy is what fuels the flames since the emotional and spiritual death would be far worse than physical pain.

Hell = eternal separation from God. It is a real state whether or not it includes all the fire and brimstone. So, either way, it exists and it would be horrible if Jesus had not saved us from it.

[MercifullySaved]

I think that the real question here is: How is your walk with the Lord, Haggar? Just based on my own observations and experiences, when someone starts to believe that Hell is a non-literal place, it's because there's a fear within them of going there.

[hannahrachel]

I am starting to belive that there is no hell and that it is symbolic and not literal. And the rapture also. because what if its the EMP that everyone is afrade of? Because what if the nuclear EMP goes off and alot of prople vaporize? Like isreal being a woman and the book of revalations is symbolic. Alot of the stuff in the bible is symbolic so what if hell does not exsist and is only symbolic and not literell??
Hi Hagar,
I wish I could say to you, your right there is no hell, cause I wouldn't want to send people there, but I have been there and seen it and he who is a liar, liar pants on fire is trying to deceive you, don't let him win, G-d is the one on your side! Hang on to Him for all its worth, He won't let go unless you personally tell Him to get lost, please don't listen to the enemy of G-d, really he does his best at deceiving the very children G-d is trying to reach. I have noticed in many conversions, the first thing that comes is something bad happens in the persons life and then they are hating G-d for it, if you let the Lord handle your problem, I know he will give you the right road to walk. Remember satan doesn't chase down his kids and ruin their lives why bother they are already his, he wants the people like you who want to be one of G-ds kids. I will be praying for you and yours that you may find the truth. Hannah

[Becky]

hannahrachel, you have not seen hell unless you were not saved and had a near-death experience.

Hell was made for the dead. There is a part called "Paradise" that contains those who are saved awaiting the resurrection in the Rapture and there is the part containing the damned.

Then there is the Lake of Fire. This is in the future. After the 7 year Tribulation, after the 1,000 year Millennium, Jesus Christ will sit on the Great White Throne and judge those who have not accepted Christ as their savior. They will be thrown into the Lake of Fire forever.

This was made for Satan, the Beast and the Falst Prophet. They too will be thrown into this Lake of Fire forever.

[Slightly Miffed]

Except that I had already posted the same thing you did BEFORE you did...
Which was in fact my point exactly. :heh

[Hootmon]

Which was in fact my point exactly. :hehProof that the voices talk to ME first...

[Joshua's Gen]

I believe people can see Hell, but as Becky said... you're going to have to be unsaved, and then died, or had some vision received.

[Harley]

hannahrachel, you have not seen hell unless you were not saved and had a near-death experience.
I don't think a near-death experience is even enough.

[Benja32one]

I believe in a literal Hell, but I don't think this text can be used to prove it. Unless you believe it also teaches that those in Hell and those not, can shout at each other.
:wave
The Rich man pleaded WITH GOD, not Lazarus.
:nod

[Benja32one]

hannahrachel, you have not seen hell unless you were not saved and had a near-death experience.

Hell was made for the dead. There is a part called "Paradise" that contains those who are saved awaiting the resurrection in the Rapture and there is the part containing the damned.

Then there is the Lake of Fire. This is in the future. After the 7 year Tribulation, after the 1,000 year Millennium, Jesus Christ will sit on the Great White Throne and judge those who have not accepted Christ as their savior. They will be thrown into the Lake of Fire forever.

This was made for Satan, the Beast and the Falst Prophet. They too will be thrown into this Lake of Fire forever.

:wave
Becky...there is no one in 'Paradise' now. All believers go to be with Christ
at their departure from this life...immediately. IMHO
:nod

[Harley]

:wave
The Rich man pleaded WITH GOD, not Lazarus.
:nod
Actually, I think it was neither: "...And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me..." (Luke 16:24).

So, if you are going to say this arguea for a literal Hell, you must also say that it accurately describes that Hell. Therefore those in Hell can see and communicate with those who are not.

[Benja32one]

Actually, I think it was neither: "...And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me..." (Luke 16:24).

So, if you are going to say this arguea for a literal Hell, you must also say that it accurately describes that Hell. Therefore those in Hell can see and communicate with those who are not.
:wave
"Father Abraham", as I remember was the hebrew's way of meaning God without actually using His name. They, as the rich man, can implore God, but to no avail. I did not say the rich man could communicate with Lazarus.
:spit

[RobinB]

Wouldn't it cause nuclear fallout, however? (Asking you since you're the first poster :heh)


An article I read about EMP said there wouldn't have to be bomb fall-out, the pulse could be very easily delivered to the US, and not that many people would die right away. (only those directly affected--in maybe traffic or airline accidents if engines suddenly died.) The real affect would be felt down the road, as our food supply, transportation systems, water cleaning systems, etc. were all disrupted in a catastrophic way. We are so dependent on computers now in every walk of life--after the pulse our way of life would be devestated.

[Petezzzz]

Have you ever noticed, Hagar has this stange habit of opening a thread, and then forever deserting it?

Naaa, must be my magination.

[DJHere]

I don't see the problem, really. Hell is, by all defintions, separation from God. Once someone is fully and eternally separated from God, that person will truly know what s/he missed out on and will be in eternal torment regardless of eternal torture. In other words, the fire that is typical in most definitions of hell would not even be the real punishment. I've often wondered if God's mercy is what fuels the flames since the emotional and spiritual death would be far worse than physical pain.

Hell = eternal separation from God. It is a real state whether or not it includes all the fire and brimstone. So, either way, it exists and it would be horrible if Jesus had not saved us from it.

Jesus said it included fire for He stated:

40"As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Revelation is Jesus' testimony to the churches and it states:

11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Rev. 20)

[cenimo]

Jesus preached a lot about Hell. I doubt He would have if it didn't exist.

Decades of feel good tell 'em what they want to hear preaching hasn't helped with this.

[Larry B]

Have you ever noticed, Hagar has this stange habit of opening a thread, and then forever deserting it?

Naaa, must be my magination.
:lol :pound :B: :heh :pound

[Longing2cJesus]

:nod
Hagar, when you begin to wonder about bible doctrine, you are wandering around in the devil's territory. You will find yourself in a spiritual desert with a small bottle of water, under a bush, wondering all sorts of things. You will not notice the slide toward unhappy beliefs until it is too late. What other doctrines are you wondering about? The Son of God? Heaven? Sin? Judgment?
The greek word for deceive is 'planae'and it means to wander, being mis-led by another. Make no mistake about it, when we doubt the goodness and severity of God, we are in a wilderness with all sorts of other ogres. The scripture says, "The devil as a roaring lion walketh about seeking whom he may devour," 1 Peter 5.8. Insinuation is his method from the beginning to instigate doubt in the believer and unbeliever alike. But praise God! There is a remedy for this condition for the believer....James 4.7: "Resist the devil and he will flee from you." Make no mistake, you are in a dark precarious place.
Thank God........

19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do
well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,
until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any
private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy
men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Peter 1.19-21

Without God's Word we are spiritual wanderers in a desert of doubt.
:nod


Benja,

God Bless you and thank you for this reminder.

Longing to see His face,
Ann

[Jesus died4u]

uhhhhhhh......anyone notice anything here?





Hagar has not come back.............strange indeed.

[hagar]

I just dont know how to reply sometimes. Im not deserting anything and With stories about demons and all And for the fact that Jesus saved us from going to hell I belive now that there is a hell and hell is not symbolic it is litterall and a very real place I was just having doubts wich I tend to have sometimes but now I know that hell is a real place and that the Lord Jesus christ saved us from Hell.

[hagar]

And please stop laughing at me it Hurts me to be laughed at. :cry

[cardboardpunk]

:hug glad you're not having doubts anymore, brother. we all have them from time to time, it's very normal :hug

[Elizabeth_S]

And please stop laughing at me it Hurts me to be laughed at. :cry
:hug

I don't think the poster meant it in a mean way.............

[kingdomgospel]

hagar,

The bible seems to indicate that hell is a real place/condition that will ultimately be cast along with death into the fiery lake of God's love.

Until then, it is described in the original Greek as being a place of "ages lasting correction."

KingdomGospel

[littleone]

In other words, everlasting torments.