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HillbillyWilli
May 14th, 2005, 05:45 PM
What is it your trust?
Do you trust yourself to protect yourself? Is there a gun waiting for your enemy? Who do you trust more yourself or God?

Can you tell me where Jesus teaches that you need a gun to protect yourself?
Benja32one
May 14th, 2005, 05:56 PM
What is it your trust?
Do you trust yourself to protect yourself? Is there a gun waiting for your enemy? Who do you trust more yourself or God?

Can you tell me where Jesus teaches that you need a gun to protect yourself?
:doh
Luke 11.21-22. I love the Lord, and Smith and Wesson are friends of mine to help defend my house. The Lord never told us not to defend ourselves and our families, friend.
:thumb
HillbillyWilli
May 14th, 2005, 06:01 PM
:doh
Luke 11.21-22. I love the Lord, and Smith and Wesson are frinds of mine to help defend my house. The Lord never told us not to defend ourselves and our families, friend.
:thumb

then please teach me of this "Rambo" type Jesus
SteelRoots
May 14th, 2005, 06:07 PM
Hilbilly willi, I've read alot of your posts in the last 10 minutes.

I noticed a trend, you are very anti-violence, are you a pacifist? That is fine if you don't like violence but, your posts need a little more, elaboration, theyre a little too philisophical for everyone.
Becky
May 14th, 2005, 06:09 PM
We are to take care of what God blesses us with, not be overrun by the enemy. I will not let anyone hurt my children and neither should you.
Benja32one
May 14th, 2005, 06:17 PM
then please teach me of this "Rambo" type Jesus

:wave
At the risk of His own body, Jesus entered into the synagogue and faced the Pharisees, right in their midst brought a man with a withered hand to the center and healed him. Before He did that 'HE LOOKED ROUND ABOUT ON THEM WITH ANGER', being grieved at their hardness of heart. (Mark 3.5) No guns, knives or anything, but the 'iniquity of the Amorites has come nearly full, IMO, and today, you'd better lock your door at night. Reasonable self defense is the law guaranteed by the Constitution of these United States.
:spit
Elizabeth_S
May 14th, 2005, 07:34 PM
What is it your trust?
Do you trust yourself to protect yourself? Is there a gun waiting for your enemy? Who do you trust more yourself or God?

Can you tell me where Jesus teaches that you need a gun to protect yourself?
Or the equivalent............

Luke 22:35-37 (New King James Version)
New King James Version (NKJV)
Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


Supplies for the Road
35And He said to them, "When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?"
So they said, "Nothing."

36Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: "And He was numbered with the transgressors.'[a] For the things concerning Me have an end."

If someone dies by a sword or by a gun, that person is still DEAD, wouldn't you agree? Jesus himself said go get a sword..............why was that you think?
Elizabeth_S
May 14th, 2005, 07:37 PM
What is it your trust?
Do you trust yourself to protect yourself? Is there a gun waiting for your enemy? Who do you trust more yourself or God?

Can you tell me where Jesus teaches that you need a gun to protect yourself?
Do you eat everyday or do you trust Jesus to keep you from being hungry?

Do you work, or do you trust for things to just happen (ie rent paid, food bought, electric turned on, internet services paid for)?
Benja32one
May 14th, 2005, 07:44 PM
Hiya Liz! If anyone thinks our 'little ones' are fair game they have to come through me to get to them. PERIOD.
Ponderin
May 14th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Did someone say gun?

I have 2 legal fire arms.

A limited edition red rider bb gun and a limited edition wild turkey federation 12 guage shot gun.

Oh yeah, and Ms kitty has one.



Willi,some ppl trust in chariots and horses.

I don't.


I trust in God alone.


:wave
cenimo
May 14th, 2005, 08:21 PM
DNFTT folks
:):
dman
May 14th, 2005, 08:37 PM
ponderin

You'll Put your eye out!!!!!
Ponderin
May 14th, 2005, 08:41 PM
dman!


Only in bad barts wildest dreams . . .

:lol
Elizabeth_S
May 14th, 2005, 09:39 PM
Hiya Liz! If anyone thinks our 'little ones' are fair game they have to come through me to get to them. PERIOD.
Exactly!!
Elizabeth_S
May 14th, 2005, 09:41 PM
DNFTT folks
:):
Sorry cemino :doh Just tidbits.........:D:
blitzkreig
May 14th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Luk 22:35-36
(35) And he said unto them, When I sent you forth without purse, and wallet, and shoes, lacked ye anything? And they said, Nothing.
(36) And he said unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet; and he that hath none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword.
Harley
May 14th, 2005, 10:03 PM
...theyre a little too philisophical for everyone.
This might be too much benefit of the doubt.
SteelRoots
May 15th, 2005, 12:15 AM
This might be too much benefit of the doubt.


I was trying to say, "We don't understand you speak english" in a nice way.

he was banned i think, he wasn't as "dumb" as he said. He was posing as a hilbilly but coming here to slander Christianity.
OscarTheOnion
May 15th, 2005, 12:43 AM
DNFTT folks
:):

TY! :D:
Gordon b
May 15th, 2005, 07:17 AM
This country was founded by faith and guns.
semperfidelis
May 16th, 2005, 07:23 PM
What is it your trust?
Do you trust yourself to protect yourself? Is there a gun waiting for your enemy? Who do you trust more yourself or God?

Can you tell me where Jesus teaches that you need a gun to protect yourself?

Not saying you need a gun, but when David entered battle he did it with a slongshot and some carefully selected stones.

If God calls you to enter battle are you going to enter it naked with no weapon other than your fists?
blitzkreig
May 16th, 2005, 11:46 PM
If God calls you to enter battle are you going to enter it naked with no weapon other than your fists? How can you see to shoot ... Mat 5:39 but I say unto you, resist not him that is evil: but whosoever smiteth thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Benja32one
May 17th, 2005, 07:43 AM
How can you see to shoot ...
:(:
You know very well that what you quoted is Millennial Law for those in the
1000 years. (Matthew 5-7.) I realize there is secondary application, but it is not TO US in this age of grace.
:faint
antsinmypants
May 17th, 2005, 10:50 AM
Did someone say gun?

I have ...A limited edition red rider bb gun ...

You'll shoot yer eye out kid! :lol


Everyone else has "stolen my thunder".

Yshua said to get a sword for personal protection once he left his disciples. There's reason for it. It's not so we go and murder... but so that if someone were to try to murder us, that we are able to protect ourselves.

Today-- our mode of "sword" is either a knife or a gun. I have neither at this time.. but I wouldn't mind my hands being my sword :evil - i could take personal defense classes ;):
antsinmypants
May 17th, 2005, 10:52 AM
How can you see to shoot ...

Mat 5:39 but I say unto you, resist not him that is evil: but whosoever smiteth thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.


You know as well as I, this has to do with personal fights, and not someone trying to commit homicide.
antitox
May 17th, 2005, 06:39 PM
The reason free societies exist is because people at some point had weapons to defend themselves. That's why in the U.S. the Constitution states that the people have the right to bear arms. Since the law shows that one can defend himself (Ex 22), that God has not prevented us from doing so.
blitzkreig
May 17th, 2005, 11:25 PM
:(:
You know very well that what you quoted is Millennial Law for those in the
1000 years. (Matthew 5-7.) I realize there is secondary application, but it is not TO US in this age of grace.
:faint :angel





:becky



:heh


OK I confess I am not a gun for defense kinda guy ... :peep