PDA

View Full Version : God' Plan


fitzz
May 11th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Through scripture,could God's plan be explained.God knows all things from
start to finish.When God created Man knowing ,he would fall,He also gave
Christ for our sins.In the bible,God says that we were called before the
foundation of the world.Knowing this is a wonderfull thing.However,does
this mean that some people were predestioned for hell?I am having a hard time
understanding how a loving God,would do this.I as a father,would not do this
to my kids.Why counldn't God find another way?I have unsaved friends that
ask,why would God create the devil,knowing what the devil would do.Therefore,they say God created sin.

sixfingers
May 11th, 2005, 04:37 PM
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


As for a loving God being loving and not punishing sin. Well, being a perfect just God, He must have perfect justice. He spared not His own Son pouring out His Holy Justice on Christ for our sin that we might be spared. Would you as a father do this to your own kids? The price of sin must be paid. If we choose not to receive His payment, we must pay for it eternally.

Rom 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

What grace the Father has given us who don't deserve it.

Blessings!

sixfingers
May 11th, 2005, 05:01 PM
Let me also address the sin question.

Gods being perfect and Holy by nature is not capable of sin or creating it. Sort of like you having a human nature not being capable of running as fast as a cheeta. Its not part of your nature, thus you are in capable of it. The same applies to God and sin. God merely created a condition where sin was possible. This was a calculated risk that God took in order for man to Choose by his free will whether or not to truly Love and trust God. An example might be you as a parent constructing an circumstance where your child might be able to obey or disobey. If the child chooses to disobey, you are not guilty of creating disobediance, or disobeying. But rather showing the child what is right and pleasing in your eyes. Its up to the child to heed your instruction and choose whether or not He trust your judgment.

Well, man chose to disobey/sin against God, thus the plan of salvation through Gods own Son, by His own Judgment, to satisfy His own standard of Justice.

Its the greatest Love Story ever told. :):

antitox
May 11th, 2005, 11:03 PM
I don't think God predestines anyone for hell. In the end, at the white throne judgment, no one will be able to blame God, because it will be proven that they made their own choices with their own free will. I also believe that God will be able to replay anything to remove all doubt. God deals with a just balance, which is a perfect one.

My understanding is that He has allowed man to run his own course after the fall; that in this fallen state, in this struggle of life, those who really love God will give their lives over to Him and God will have a people that have proven their love for Him. This what I believe He wants, what was in His plan all along. He wanted a people for himself.