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Jiggy37
March 31st, 2005, 05:54 PM
Ecclesiastes 10:2
A wise man's heart is at his right hand,
But a fool's heart at his left.



2 Chronicles 34
1 Josiah was eight years old when he became king, and he reigned thirty-one years in Jerusalem. 2And he did what was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in the ways of his father David; he did not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.



Which one is correct?
Or maybe both? I could see how it would be better to "do what was right in the sight of the Lord" than to just be "a wise man."
But then again, "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom."
Then again, the beginning of wisdom isn't the same thing as--oh, I don't know--the completion of wisdom, so maybe Josiah never really progressed past the beginning?
Or perhaps "a wise man" in the Ecclesiastes verse isn't referring to the type of wisdom that comes from the Lord?

antsinmypants
April 1st, 2005, 10:17 AM
2 Chronicles 34
1 Josiah was eight years old when he became king, and he reigned thirty-one years in Jerusalem. 2And he did what was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in the ways of his father David; he did not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.



Hebrew Euphamism.

Means that G-d directed his path and he did not divert from it.

Much different than the Ecclesiastes passage.

Hootmon
April 1st, 2005, 10:24 AM
The Hebrew origins of Right and Left are interesting...

Right can also mean South and Light and Strength, as Left can mean North and Dark and Weakness.

Im thinking the Light/Dark and Strength/Weakness implications are what the Ecclesiastes verses are referring to...

70thWeek
April 1st, 2005, 01:38 PM
You're comparing poetic wisdom literature to narrative. Don't read too much into it.

Jiggy37
April 1st, 2005, 02:18 PM
Hebrew Euphamism.

Means that G-d directed his path and he did not divert from it.

Much different than the Ecclesiastes passage.Okay, looks like I've got another reason to advocate going back to the original language. :lol



The Hebrew origins of Right and Left are interesting...

Right can also mean South and Light and Strength, as Left can mean North and Dark and Weakness.

Im thinking the Light/Dark and Strength/Weakness implications are what the Ecclesiastes verses are referring to...Hmm, now that's interesting. :wacko


You're comparing poetic wisdom literature to narrative. Don't read too much into it.If I applied that to everything, I don't think I'd be reading anything into anything when it comes to the Bible, because I'd have no clue how to read a single word of it. :confused

antsinmypants
April 1st, 2005, 02:44 PM
You're comparing poetic wisdom literature to narrative. Don't read too much into it.


While one shouldn't be "reading into" (Eisegesis), they should use all powers available to make the correct exegetical analysis (PaRDeS, Thematic Analysis, word study, Colloquial sayings/Hebraisms)...

To say "don't read into it"-- can mean to totally ignore what's said and take only at face value, a colloquial-type saying, which has deep meaning that shows in itself the entire theme of the verse or chapter.

Know what I mean?

Beth
April 1st, 2005, 02:57 PM
Ecclesiastes 10:2
A wise man's heart is at his right hand,
But a fool's heart at his left.



2 Chronicles 34
1 Josiah was eight years old when he became king, and he reigned thirty-one years in Jerusalem. 2And he did what was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in the ways of his father David; he did not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.



Which one is correct?
Or maybe both? I could see how it would be better to "do what was right in the sight of the Lord" than to just be "a wise man."
But then again, "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom."
Then again, the beginning of wisdom isn't the same thing as--oh, I don't know--the completion of wisdom, so maybe Josiah never really progressed past the beginning?
Or perhaps "a wise man" in the Ecclesiastes verse isn't referring to the type of wisdom that comes from the Lord?


Look in Joshua. I think you'll find 'turning neither to the right nor to the left' in there.

Jiggy37
April 1st, 2005, 03:03 PM
Look in Joshua. I think you'll find 'turning neither to the right nor to the left' in there.Joshua 1:7
Only be strong and very courageous, that you may observe to do according to all the law which Moses My servant commanded you; do not turn from it to the right hand or to the left, that you may prosper wherever you go.


Okay.
Well, now I think we've got the meaning of the 2 Chronicles verse, but what's the meaning of the Ecclesiastes verse?