Will we see GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF?

[Jesus died4u]

In Heaven, After The Rapture?

[mikesteffen]

Rev 22:4
And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

[Werner]

Revelation 21:2-7

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

:dancing :clap :party

[Jesus died4u]

what I meant to say was- does it say what God looks like? or manifests himself as? light only? or a form of some kind? and still (not Jesus)?

[mikesteffen]

Three times in the last two chapters of the bible, discussing our eternal home, reference is made to God and the Lamb. Could be wrong but I think this is referring to God the Father and Jesus.

Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

If these verses refer to God the Father and Jesus, then it seems clear that they will both be their bodily.

Can't think of any verses that refer to what He looks like.

[Patty T]

Well, in Genesis we know that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit tell us that they made man in "their" image. Then proceeded to form Adam from the dust of the earth.

We are a spirit, we have a soul and we live in a body - which I believe are representative of the Trinity.

Does God the Father have a "body"? We know scriputre says God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in Spirit and Truth (Jesus is also the way, the truth and the light). I think it was Moses who God hid in the cleft of the rock so he could see God "pass by". Moses couldn't look at God's "face", but was allowed to see His glory as the Lord was passing by.

Interesting question.

[Average Joey]

I was under the impression that God the Father cannot really be seen.However maybe in our glorified bodies we may see.Also consider what Jesus told Philip:

Jhn 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jhn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?
Jhn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

[heavenlierealm]

I AM SO EXCITED!! :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :faint :faint :faint :faint :faint :faint

COME QUICKLY!! :D: :D:

[Slippery]

I AM SO EXCITED!! :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :faint :faint :faint :faint :faint :faint

COME QUICKLY!! :D: :D:
The most perfect response froma believer to the reality of seeing God as He is. :thumb

For unbelievers its this one :fear :tape

[MNGirl]

I guess I imagine him in a human type form except he is made out of light.

[4everHis]

The most perfect response froma believer to the reality of seeing God as He is. :thumb

For unbelievers its this one :fear :tape

Amen to that.

You know there are times when I get down and feel so unworthy.
But something in my soul stirs and my spirit soars when I think
about the reality of seeing the Father face to face and worshipping
Him forever.

I'm so ready.......

[Slippery]

Amen to that.

You know there are times when I get down and feel so unworthy.
But something in my soul stirs and my spirit soars when I think
about the reality of seeing the Father face to face and worshipping
Him forever.

I'm so ready.......
Roger that. I hear yuh. I experience the same unworthiness when realizing the fact that God, the creator of the Universe wants me to spend eternity with Him.

I was never invited to the House of a Millionaire, or a Celebrity for even a Sunday Barbcue. But God Himself wants me to spend, all Eternity with Him, and has proven that His invitation is sincere by sending Jesus to pay the costs. :cry :): :cry :): :clap

[blitzkreig]

what I meant to say was- does it say what God looks like? or manifests himself as? light only? or a form of some kind? and still (not Jesus)? You might see the Father but I question your use of the "and still (not Jesus)". Any who has seen Jesus has seen the Father...

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

I John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

[Jesus died4u]

bump.. i know Jesus IS in God the Flesh,obviously- what I meant was can we see God the FATHER PERIOD...

[BloodoftheLamb]

We cannot know or imagine even the wonders of Heaven, but we do know...its gonna be good.

I pray we all make it.
We will live bathed in the light of a love like no other, Pure and True, without any taint or corruption in our beings.

Washed in the Blood of the Lamb, who knew no sin, yet loved us while we were still sinners.

Hallelujah!

[blitzkreig]

bump.. i know Jesus IS in God the Flesh,obviously- what I meant was can we see God the FATHER PERIOD... Your concept of the Trinity might be challenged by this, but there is one God. The Father is Spirit. I don't believe it is possible to see the Father unless looking at His Son.

I hope this might help a bit...

What is the Trinity?

The word "trinity" is a term used to denote the Christian doctrine that God exists as a unity of three distinct persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of the persons is distinct from the other, yet related in essence. Each is divine in nature, but each is not the totality of the Godhead. Each has a will, loves, and says "I", and "You" when speaking. The Father is not the same person as the Son who is not the same person as the Holy Spirit who is not the same person as the Father. Each is divine, yet there are not three gods, but one God. There are three persons individual subsistences, or persons. The word "subsistence" means something that has a real existence. The word "person" denotes individuality and self awareness. The Trinity is three of these, though the latter term has become the dominant one used to describe the individual aspects of God known as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Included in the doctrine of the Trinity is a strict monotheism which is the teaching that there exists in all the universe a single being known as God who is self-existent and unchangeable (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8). Therefore, it is important to note that the doctrine of the trinity is not polytheistic as some of its critics proclaim. Trinitarianism is monotheistic by definition and those who claim it is polytheistic demonstrate a lack of understanding of what it really is.

• The Trinity
 God is three persons
 Each person is divine
 There is only one God.

Many theologians admit that the term "person" is not a perfect word to describe the three individual aspects/foci found in God. When we normally use the word person, we understand it to mean physical individuals who exist as separate beings from other individuals. But in God there are not three entities, nor three beings. God, is a trinity of persons consisting of one substance and one essence. God is numerically one. Yet, within the single divine essence are three individual subsistences that we call persons.

• Each of the three persons is completely divine in nature though each is not the totality of the Godhead.
• Each of the three persons is not the other two persons.
• Each of the three persons is related to the other two, but are distinct from them.
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The word "trinity" is not found in the Bible. But this does not mean that the concept is not taught there. The word "bible" is not found in the Bible either, but we use it anyway. Likewise, the words "omniscience," which means "all knowing," "omnipotence," which means "all powerful," and "omnipresence," which means "present everywhere," are not found in the Bible either. But we use these words to describe the attributes of God. So, to say that the Trinity isn't true because the word isn't in the Bible is an invalid argument.

Is there subordination in the Trinity?

There is, apparently, a subordination within the Trinity in regard to order but not substance or essence. We can see that the Father is first, the Son is second, and the Holy Spirit is third. The Father is not begotten, but the Son is (John 3:16). The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father (John 5:26). The Father sent the Son (1 John 4:10). The Son and the Father send the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26). The Father creates (Isaiah 44:24), the Son redeems (Gal. 3:13), and the Holy Spirit sanctifies (Rom. 15:16).

This subordination of order does not mean that each of the members of the Godhead are not equal or divine. For example, we see that the Father sent the Son. But this does not mean that the Son is not equal to the Father in essence and divine nature. A wife is to be subject to her husband but this does not negate her humanity, essence, or equality. By further analogy, a king and his servant both share human nature. Yet, the king sends the servant to do his will. Jesus said, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me" (John 6:38). Does this mean that the one sent must, therefore, be of different nature than the one who sent him? Of course not.

Critics of the Trinity will see this subordination as proof that the Trinity is false. They reason that if Jesus were truly God, then He would be completely equal to God the Father in all areas and would not, therefore, be subordinate to the Father in any way. But this objection is not logical. If we look at the analogy of the king and in the servant we certainly would not say that the servant was not human because he was sent. Being sent does not negate sameness in essence. Therefore, the fact that the Son is sent does not mean that He is not divine any more than when my wife sends me to get bread, I am not human.

Is this confusing?

Another important point about the Trinity is that it can be a difficult concept to grasp. But this does not necessitate an argument against its validity. On the contrary, the fact that it is difficult is an argument for its truth. The Bible is the self revelation of an infinite God. Therefore, we are bound to encounter concepts which are difficult to understand -- especially when dealing with an incomprehensible God who exists in all places at all times. So, when we view descriptions and attributes of God manifested in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, we discover that a completely comprehensible and understandable explanation of God's essence and nature is not possible. What we have, however, done is derive from the Scripture the truths that we can grasp and combine them into the doctrine we call The Trinity. The Trinity is, to a large extent, a mystery. After all, we are dealing with God Himself.


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[Average Joey]

I agree with Blitz.However we must also remember that we are trying to look at things as we see them now.God basically gave us 5 senses in our bodies.For that reason we cannot imagine sensing anything outside of these 5 senses.I hope that makes sense. :laugh