Marriage & Heaven, a Question

[Hamilton]

Okay, I was always taught that in Heaven we would not be with our families anymore because of something, I can't remember. I was also always taught that our marriages would become null, too.

Again, I can't remember the reasoning.

BUT, I was also taught that in Marriage, the union creates one person in two bodies, a union of the souls, if I'm not mistaken.

How then, if our souls have become one, can the marriage become void?

Unless I'm mistaken, this teaching is biblical.

Hamilton :confused :confused

[DMac]

The Sadducees asked Jesus about marriage and the resurrection in Mark 12:18-23. Actually they were trying to trick Him. His response.

Jesus replied, "are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage: they will be like the angels in heaven. Mark 12:24-25

[Hamilton]

Okay, but doesn't this mean that God is going to 'break apart' into two souls the union that He made into one?

Isn't this union supposed to be inseperable?

or will there be half as many souls? ha

Hamilton

[DMac]

I don't feel that God is breaking anything apart. We will simply have a different type of existence at the resurrection. Worldly things will have passed away. I'm sure there are those here who could explain it better.

[mikey66]

Good topic!


I always hoped there would be marriage! I want a chance at marriage and to have kids of my own....but if the Rapture happenned today would I not ever have that chance???

This actually has made me depressed! :freaked , not to worry though....I will be able to be with God Himself!

[BHiles]

Let us be real clear on what the scripture teaches about becoming one.

Ge 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

The Union of marriage does not create on soul but one flesh. The flesh dies and is changed at the rapture. It is no longer one flesh in heaven. The souls are never said to combine as the spirit never is combined. Each has their own responsiblitiy before God for their own soul to choose to accept Christ and for their spirit to become born-again.

Otherwise the salvation of one of the marriage partners would save the one soul and we know that this does not happen.

Marriage is not in heaven however the ability to love our sister in Christ in pure love will be a wonderful thing. The ability love all our sisters in Christ and spend time with them without temptation of lust, jealousy and the obvious impropriety that can occur in our earthly bodies will also be a wonderful thing.

We husband many times fail to see our wives as our sisters in Christ. We make a grievous error when we deflate their usefulness for God's kingdom by our words and actions. We must be very careful to nurture their relationship with their God.

[BHiles]

Good topic!


I always hoped there would be marriage! I want a chance at marriage and to have kids of my own....but if the Rapture happenned today would I not ever have that chance???

This actually has made me depressed! :freaked , not to worry though....I will be able to be with God Himself!
Everything God has for us n heaven will be a multitude times greater in heaven. You can be assured that you will not have missed a thing. He is your satisfaction and your All in All. Do not fret.

[antitox]

What we have on earth in marriage is a relationship of one flesh that mirrors the committment of God's covenant with us.(Eph 5) Man was made male and female here on earth, but no sexual design for eternity because the marriage is then our life with God. This is designed around covenant. This is going to be about God and us, really nothing else. With marriage, God gave us something here to help us experience and grasp what He's after. Being a parent helps us understand what it's like to be a father or mother; God's concept of care and nurturing. He lets us experience a little of what He lives because He wants us to be part of His family. This, though hard to explain, is one of the most beautiful aspects of His nature.

[My Abba's Child]

Okay, I was always taught that in Heaven we would not be with our families anymore because of something, I can't remember. I was also always taught that our marriages would become null, too.

Again, I can't remember the reasoning.

BUT, I was also taught that in Marriage, the union creates one person in two bodies, a union of the souls, if I'm not mistaken.

How then, if our souls have become one, can the marriage become void?

Unless I'm mistaken, this teaching is biblical.

Hamilton :confused :confused

We are created AS one upon marriage, AS being... either metaphor or simile... it's been too long to remember which. hehehe It's not our souls that are bound together. We become AS one flesh meaning that we should be completely united in purpose, action, thought, etc... not pulling against one another. That's why Paul tells us not to be united with unbelievers and used the analogy of oxen unequally yoked in that situation.

Nowhere in the bible (that I can recall) does it say that when we get to heaven our souls will be bound with our spouse into one new being. In fact, Paul tells us that upon the death of our spouse we are freed from that union and may marry again(using it as an analogy to represent how we are no longer bound to The Law because it has passed away and now we are freed by Grace). Perhaps this is what Jesus was pointing out when He spoke to the Pharisees concerning which brother the woman would be bound to in heaven in the hypothetical situation whichthey supplied Him. She would be bound to none, for the bonds of marriage are broken upon death, thus the marriage saying, "...UNTIL death do us part."

I have given this particular subject much thought, for it's important to my husband and I. After reading the answer Jesus gives the Pharisees, "... there will be no marrying or being given in marriage..." I believe that there will be no new marriages, but PERHAPS any marriages active at the time of the Rapture might still exist (and, since we'll be made perfect and sinless, imagine ... if this thought is true... how much more we will enjoy that marriage! Even marriages which are loveless or going through turmoil will be perfected, just as God had in mind for Adam and Eve!). These are just MY thoughts on the matter and are not Biblically backed beyond what I MAY be reading into that particular scripture. hehe It just seems to me to be a reading between the lines thing.

I do, however, believe that when God creates the new heavens and the new Earth, we will be returned to His ideal. There will be no more punishment (rejoice, ladies! No more cramps or labor pain!! hehe) and relationships will be exactly the way God created us for! There will be no more sin, so relationships will not be broken, etc... Perhaps at that point, those of us who were never married, divorced, or the bonds of marriage broken by death, etc... will have the chance to experience the bonds of TRULY holy matrimony. :clap :D: Again, this is just what I picture and is not, that I know of, not a 'Thus saith the Lord' edict. hehe

In His love,

[Rodney]

BUT, I was also taught that in Marriage, the union creates one person in two bodies, a union of the souls, if I'm not mistaken.


Actually I think its the other way around, its actually two spirits but one body or rather "one fesh".

The relevant verses are these.

Genesis 2:24
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

Matthew 19:5
and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'

Ephesians 5:31
"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."

1 Corinthians 6:16
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."

The question is what is a "flesh"? And the answer is that it seems to be a physical (rather than a spiritual) body.

The Hebrew word for "flesh" is basar (as used in Genesis 2:24). The definition of basar is


Basar

1) flesh
a) of the body
1) of humans
2) of animals
b) the body itself
c) male organ of generation (euphemism)
d) kindred, blood-relations
e) flesh as frail or erring (man against God)
f) all living things
g) animals
h) mankind


The Greek word for "flesh" is sarx (as used in Matthew 19:5). The definition of sarx is


1) flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts
2) the body
a) the body of a man
b) used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship
1) born of natural generation
c) the sensuous nature of man, "the animal nature"
1) without any suggestion of depravity
2) the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin
3) the physical nature of man as subject to suffering
3) a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast
4) the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God


So it is not "one spirit" but rather "one body" that a married couple become.
It is difficult to understand how two physical bodies can be one physical body but that is what the bible says, its a union that creates one body not one soul. There is no biblical basis for saying that there is just one soul.

[Hamilton]

i see. I was wrong.

Thanks,

Hamilton