Demon Possession

[Willo]

G'day!

I am going to be preaching on demons soon at youth, and how opening yourself up to satanism/withcraft can allow demons into your life.

I will be using a audio of a demon speaking from Ray Comforts site (reconmend everyone hears: http://www.livingwaters.com/exorcism/ )

But I am after more information, I have the bible, but I am after cases of demon possession recently, so I can show that it still occurs today. Also any different audio/visual would be good.

Plus does anyone have information on Spontaneous Human Combustion, and how it relates to demonology.

Thanks

Willo

[LongLiveRawk]

Man thats intense :freaked

I wish I did Willo, but I don't. This is going to be very intense for the kids listening to it, I pray that Christ makes an impact in their lives.

[Willo]

It will hopefully scare the hell out of the Christians so they don't get mixed up in it, and bring the others to a point of salvation

[Daisy Cutter]

I think its possible. But also impossible to possess someone with Christ in their heart. Make them all play Doom 3 on the latest hardware and then they'll know...

[elredcrow]

Man! I don't want to hear a demon speak or see one....

[antsinmypants]

You might want to check out a book called "Rainforest: a Yanomamao Story".
It's a book about missionaries and the Yanomamao people of Central/South America. it also deals with demon possession- as the (former) shamans are the ones telling the story.

[Maria]

G'day!

I am going to be preaching on demons soon at youth, and how opening yourself up to satanism/withcraft can allow demons into your life.

I will be using a audio of a demon speaking from Ray Comforts site (reconmend everyone hears: http://www.livingwaters.com/exorcism/ )

But I am after more information, I have the bible, but I am after cases of demon possession recently, so I can show that it still occurs today. Also any different audio/visual would be good.

Plus does anyone have information on Spontaneous Human Combustion, and how it relates to demonology.

Thanks

Willo


Before I here this, can you tell me more about it? Was it a manifestation at his church and it was recorded on tape?

Thanks.

[Hootmon]

Plus does anyone have information on Spontaneous Human Combustion, and how it relates to demonology. SHC is likely a mundane event, though a bit rare.

Im not aware of any connection to demons.

[Willo]

Before I here this, can you tell me more about it? Was it a manifestation at his church and it was recorded on tape?

Thanks.

It is a recording of a young woman who rang a Christian radio show, and while the host is praying for her, the demon starts to manifest.

[Maria]

It is a recording of a young woman who rang a Christian radio show, and while the host is praying for her, the demon starts to manifest.


Wow, so I imagine that a lot of people heard this, right?

[LisaAnn]

Willo I think this is an awsome undertaking but I want to share with you that it was a sermon on demons that got me interested in the occult. I went to a private Christian school at the time and every Wednesday was chapel day. During one chapel they had a special speaker who gave his life story of how he was saved from a life of the occult. He shared with us all of the horrors that this life brought to him and that it all started with the ouija board.

Well, being a stupid 13 year old, instead of having the hell scared out of me it actually made me and many of my friends very curious about it. We were all very close so we got together and actually made our own ouija board since we were all from Christian homes and therfore no one actually owned one. I spend many years dabbling in the occult and as such opened up myself and my home to these demons. It has only been in the last year that I have been able to fast and pray them out of my life.

Go into this with a great amount of prayer that this will not instigate an interest in the occult for these impressionable kids. :(:

[SeaDreamer]

Plus does anyone have information on Spontaneous Human Combustion, and how it relates to demonology.

I don't have any official information but my thoughts on this have always been that it's someone who has died and gone to hell and a little bit of that "leaked" into our world.


<--grabs her tin hat.

[joy4Him2day]

Willo I think this is an awsome undertaking but I want to share with you that it was a sermon on demons that got me interested in the occult. I went to a private Christian school at the time and every Wednesday was chapel day. During one chapel they had a special speaker who gave his life story of how he was saved from a life of the occult. He shared with us all of the horrors that this life brought to him and that it all started with the ouija board.

Well, being a stupid 13 year old, instead of having the hell scared out of me it actually made me and many of my friends very curious about it. We were all very close so we got together and actually made our own ouija board since we were all from Christian homes and therfore no one actually owned one. I spend many years dabbling in the occult and as such opened up myself and my home to these demons. It has only been in the last year that I have been able to fast and pray them out of my life.

Go into this with a great amount of prayer that this will not instigate an interest in the occult for these impressionable kids. :(:


I am with LisaAnn on this one, Willo. I have hesitated to post, but my thoughts were directly in this line, that you will spur more curiosity than anything....I think the young are not the ones to introduce to this.....
Of all the subjects, this seems to be the one? Go into this with a great amount of prayer that this will not instigate an interest in the occult for these impressionable kids........

JMHO

[Willo]

Willo I think this is an awsome undertaking but I want to share with you that it was a sermon on demons that got me interested in the occult. I went to a private Christian school at the time and every Wednesday was chapel day. During one chapel they had a special speaker who gave his life story of how he was saved from a life of the occult. He shared with us all of the horrors that this life brought to him and that it all started with the ouija board.

Well, being a stupid 13 year old, instead of having the hell scared out of me it actually made me and many of my friends very curious about it. We were all very close so we got together and actually made our own ouija board since we were all from Christian homes and therfore no one actually owned one. I spend many years dabbling in the occult and as such opened up myself and my home to these demons. It has only been in the last year that I have been able to fast and pray them out of my life.

Go into this with a great amount of prayer that this will not instigate an interest in the occult for these impressionable kids. :(:

I understand your concern, the youth that will hear the sermon are older youth/young adults.

Myself and my co-leader have been in prayer and fasting for this sermon. We are only preaching it because we believe that some of the ones in the group are dabbling already with witchcraft.

Before we annouced what we were going to speak on we went to the church leadership, and they agreed that it was needed, and that they will have the prayer warriors praying for us. We also have pastors on stand by in case of any demonic manifestations, as we have encouraged people to bring their friends who are involved in witchcraft.

The object of this sermon is to set the captives free in Jesus' mighty name! :clap

God Bless

Willo

[Willo]

Wow, so I imagine that a lot of people heard this, right?

right

[MovinOnUp]

I will be praying for you Willo, and for those in attendance..may the precious blood of Jesus Christ set those bound by evil, free.

Perhaps you could 'bump' this thread, or post in the prayer request forum before the meeting so more can pray?
God bless you!

[Willo]

I will be praying for you Willo, and for those in attendance..may the precious blood of Jesus Christ set those bound by evil, free.

Perhaps you could 'bump' this thread, or post in the prayer request forum before the meeting so more can pray?
God bless you!

Yeah will do that

[LongLiveRawk]

I'll be praying that Christ works through you, Willo, and that many youth come to know the Lord.

[joy4Him2day]

I understand your concern, the youth that will hear the sermon are older youth/young adults.

Myself and my co-leader have been in prayer and fasting for this sermon. We are only preaching it because we believe that some of the ones in the group are dabbling already with witchcraft.

Before we annouced what we were going to speak on we went to the church leadership, and they agreed that it was needed, and that they will have the prayer warriors praying for us. We also have pastors on stand by in case of any demonic manifestations, as we have encouraged people to bring their friends who are involved in witchcraft.

The object of this sermon is to set the captives free in Jesus' mighty name! :clap

God Bless

Willo


thanks for not getting upset for my concern......I feel better now that you have elaborated......you are right, there are times that this needs to be addressed, and I am glad to hear that you are surrounding it with much prayer. Setting the captives free is the banner of the army of Christ! In His Name, we shall be ambassadors of truth!

I would be interested to know how it goes........
God Bless your surrender to Him,
JOY

[ehbowen]

There is a plausible, mundane explanation for Spontaneous Human Combustion. I lifted this bit from one of James Randi's commentaries, talking about a BBC TV program which addressed the topic:

(full story at http://www.randi.org/jr/031502.html)
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This TV program followed an experiment conducted by Dr. John de Haan, of the California Criminalistics Institute, who had investigated a real murder case in which a body was found burning, unusually for "SHC" cases in that it was found outdoors. In his experiment, the carcass of a fully grown pig (selected because pigs and humans have similar fat distribution) was wrapped in a blanket, deposited on a carpet, and set alight in circumstances that matched those in various "SHC" cases.

And a remarkable demonstration it turned out to be. After some time, when common sense should have told us that all the blanket and carpet should have been reduced to ash, we could see pig fat bubbling from the carcass soaking the charred material, thus acting exactly as a candle wick. It maintained a hot, though low-flame, fire and it kept doing so for hours. After around five hours the mystery of the bones began to unravel. The bone marrow (about 80% fat) was contributing to keeping the fire going, and was leading to the reduction of the bones themselves to ash. And the element that is missing in crematoria is present in these cases — time. Cremations last about 1.5 hours, but in "SHC" cases the fire burns for many, many hours. The mystery of why lower limbs so often remained after one of these fires, was explained by the low fat content of these parts and their remoteness from the seat of the fire — there is not much fat in shins and feet to sustain this sort of fire.

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So I would encourage you to be careful about linking SHC with demon possession; it appears to be more closely correlated with cigarette smoking. However, I do believe that the subject of demon possession is worth careful study and I hope you are able to put together a good sermon for your youth.

[Hootmon]

There is a plausible, mundane explanation for Spontaneous Human Combustion. I lifted this bit from one of James Randi's commentaries, talking about a BBC TV program which addressed the topic: I saw that demonstration on TV. Very convincing.

[mrshoward]

I have not listened to the broadcast due to fear that it would invite a demon into the room with me. Is this an irrationanal fear? I've read a book called "Bondage Breaker" (can't remember the name of the author) which encourages Christians to rebuke demons in the name of Christ as a way of purging oneself of habitual sin (this is a very limited synopsis of the book). While I was reading it, I had several demonic visitations which totally freaked me out.

Wilo, I believe you are doing a good thing and will have prayers surrounding you like a hedge. But I am afraid to dabble into this area at all anymore.

[kristine]

You're not the only one who is afraid to listen to this broadcast, mrshoward. I have had enough weird experiences in my life. I don't want to take the chance of inviting more in.

You certainly have my prayers, willo!

[cinlynn]

I listened. Praying for you Willo. There is no reason to think demonic activity ended 2000 years ago.. If anything, it is much more active today.

[crtwhlfrchrst]

I'm glad you are keeping your kiddos aware of what's out there - but I would also urge you to be cautious, especially with that recording. It is far too easy for a talk show guest, or even a talk show HOST to fake a demon phone call like that for the sake of listenership. I am a skeptic, not of demons and possession, but of people who claim to know of such incidents. Personally, I don't think God wants us to be dwelling on demons to the point that we create radio shows and books and such specifically about them.

There are two reasons I say this - one, as a previous poster noted - it can itself become a doorway into the occult. And two, too much study of demonology can lead a Christian into fear, and God has commanded us not to live in fear of anything, save Himself!

Remember the words of Paul to the church - "Be wise in what is good and innocent in what is evil." Romans 16:19