Gray Fox
August 24th, 2004, 09:02 PM
Several weeks ago, our church finished the 40 Days of Purpose program. I did not participate for many reasons that have been discussed on this messege board. One of the reasons however, was its extensive use of the Message version with its watered down and twisted way it is done.
Now they are gearing up to do a 50 Days of Prayer campaign. Does anyone know if this is a next phase or a continuation of the Purpose Driven program? If so, I suspect the Message version will again be used. Has anyone been through this?
Our Lord taught us to pray in Matt. 6. It has worked for centuries for millions of people using straight forward, not hard to understand language. If they are going to try and re-teach us using something like the Message version with different meanings, then I won't be a part of that campaign either.
This is the Message version (perversion) of that beautiful prayer. No one has the authority to edit God's Word like this.
Matthew 6
9With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:
Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
10Set the world right;
Do what's best--
as above, so below.
11Keep us alive with three square meals.
12Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
13Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Any thoughts or comments from anyone?
elredcrow
August 25th, 2004, 12:20 AM
no! No! No!
Gray Fox
August 25th, 2004, 01:47 PM
no! No! No!
What do you mean by your response?
You're saying you won't comment?
You don't like the Message version of the Lord's Prayer either?
Its not a continuation of the Purpose Driven program?
Please explain.
Gray Fox
August 25th, 2004, 07:03 PM
bump
I'd really like some input on this. Anyone????
sandy111
August 25th, 2004, 08:06 PM
that prayer is twisted. and not what the bible says.
rebecki has a site on her posts about the purpose driven movement.
and its very insiteful and good. I would encourage you to read it.
stand strong.
yieldedandstill
August 26th, 2004, 02:59 PM
I found this for you - don't know if this is what your church is doing or not, but I don't see a PDL connection...
http://www.nppn.org/Prayer%20Alerts%20&%20Initiative/50%20Day%20Prayer%20Focus.htm
50-Day Prayer Focus
Day 1: Read Hosea 6, especially v. 11. Ask the Lord to revive and raise you up. Ask Him to reveal your harvest to you. “Also, O Judah, a harvest is appointed for you, when I return the captives of My people.”
Day 2: Read Exodus 23, especially v. 16. “And the Feast of Harvest, the firstfruits of your labors which you have sown in the field; and the Feast of Ingathering at the end of the year, when you have gathered in the fruit of your labors from the field.” Thank God for His leading. Be willing to follow Him. Thank Him that He has given you firstfruits.
Day 3: Read Gen 2 and 8:22. “While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, and day and night shall not cease." Ask the Lord to reveal your harvest season to you.
Day 4: Read John 16:7, 13. The old Jewish festival contained a new significance for the Christian Church by the promised outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Ask the Holy Spirit to fill you new and fresh.
Day 5: Read John 17. Take Communion. Ask the Lord to reveal any horizontal relationships that are not right.
Day 6: Read Job 5, especially v. 5. “Because the hungry eat up his harvest, taking it even from the thorns, and a snare snatches their substance.” Ask the Lord to show you how the enemy has had access to your harvest.
Day 7: Read 1 Sam. 12, especially v. 17. “Is today not the wheat harvest? I will call to the LORD, and He will send thunder and rain, that you may perceive and see that your wickedness is great, which you have done in the sight of the LORD, in asking a king for yourselves.” Ask the Lord if there are any judgments on your harvest.
Day 8: Read Prov 6:8. The harvest mentality of ants is mentioned as a lesson for the sluggard. Break any apathy that is stopping you from moving forward.
Day 9: Read Prov 20:4. “The lazy man will not plow because of winter; he will beg during harvest and have nothing.” Ask the Lord to reveal any area of laziness in your life that has stopped you from plowing.
Day 10: Read Prov 10:5. “He who gathers in summer is a wise son; he who sleeps in harvest is a son who causes shame.” Break a spirit of slumber. Ask the Lord if you have slept when you should have gathered.
Day 11: Read Jer 8:20. “The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved!” Ask the Lord to forgive you for any missed opportunities.
Day 12: Read Joel 1. Add fasting to your praying.
Day 13: Read Joel 2. Add fasting to your praying. Make a list of anything that needs to be restored.
Day 14: Read Joel 3. Add fasting to your praying. Ask the Lord for a new joy to enter your heart and the land you are praying for.
Day 15: Read Psalm 16. Thank Him that He has an inheritance for you.
Day 16: Read Matthew 7 and 8. Let Faith arise in your heart - “the greater dimension of faith”.
Day 17: Read Matthew 9. Ask the Lord for laborers. Let Him show you where you are to labor in His Kingdom.
Day 18: Read Matthew 10. “Freely you have received, freely give.” Prepare an offering.
Day 19: Read Psalm 125. Thank Him that this is a time for new joy.
Day 20: Read Psalm 126. Sing a Song of Deliverance. Declare that all captivity is broken.
Day 21: Read Prov 25:13. “Like the cold of snow in time of harvest is a faithful messenger to those who send him, for he refreshes the soul of his masters.” Ask the Lord to surprise you with a message.
Day 22: Read Isaiah 9. Thank God for His government. Praise Him for the abundant harvest when government is in place. Pray for the government of the church that you are connected with.
Day 23: Read Jer 50:16. “Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him who handles the sickle at harvest time. For fear of the oppressing sword everyone shall turn to his own people, and everyone shall flee to his own land.” Pray for our troops in Iraq. Declare every enemy of the harvest is revealed.
Day 24: Jer 51:33. “For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: ‘The daughter of Babylon is like a threshing floor when it is time to thresh her; yet a little while and the time of her harvest will come.’” Call forth a harvest in Iraq.
Day 25: Read Luke 10, especially v. 2. “Then He said to them, ‘The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the Harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.’” Ask the Lord to give you a revelation of the Lord of the Harvest.
Day 26: Read Ruth 1. Ask the Lord to reveal covenant to you.
Day 27: Read Ruth 2, especially v. 21. “Ruth the Moabitess said, ‘He also said to me, 'You shall stay close by my young men until they have finished all my harvest.’ … So she stayed close by the young women of Boaz, to glean until the end of barley harvest and wheat harvest; and she dwelt with her mother-in-law.” Ask the Lord to show you where you have been gleaning.
Day 28: Read Ruth 3. Notice how Ruth made her shift. Ask the Lord to give you a strategy to make a shift from gleaning to harvest.
Day 29: Read Ruth 4. Thank God that He has a full, redemptive plan for you life.
Day 30: Read Amos 9. Ask the Lord to reveal to you the Tabernacle of David.
Day 31: Read II Sam. 5. Ask the Lord for the Breaker Anointing and strategies for breakthrough.
Day 32: Read Acts 15. Ask the Lord to settle any disputes that are keeping you from moving into full restoration.
Day 33: Read Joshua 3, especially v. 15. “And as those who bore the ark came to the Jordan, and the feet of the priests who bore the ark dipped in the edge of the water (for the Jordan overflows all its banks during the whole time of harvest)…” Do not be afraid to take that step of faith from wilderness to harvest.
Day 34: Read 1 Sam. 8, especially v. 12. “He will appoint captains over his thousands and captains over his fifties, will set some to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and some to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots.” Ask the Lord to show you your assignment and role in Harvest.
Day 35: Read Lev. 23 especially v. 22. “When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap the corners of your field when you reap, nor shall you gather any gleaning from your harvest. You shall leave them for the poor and for the stranger: I am the LORD your God.” Prepare a gift for someone less fortunate than you.
Day 36: Read Judges 14. Study the life of Samson. Note verse 14. Ask the Lord to reveal any root of bitterness that needs to turn sweet.
Day 37: Read Judges 15. “After a while, in the time of wheat harvest, it happened that Samson visited his wife with a young goat. And he said, ‘Let me go in to my wife, into her room.’ But her father would not permit him to go in.” See patterns that prevented victory in Samson’s life. Ask the Lord to break any similar patterns in your life.
Day 38: Read Judges 16. Ask the Lord for strength to break through. Ask Him to recoup your losses.
Day 39: Read Exodus 34:21, 22. “Six days you shall work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; in plowing time and in harvest you shall rest. And you shall observe the Feast of Weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the year's end.” Find your Sabbath.
Day 40: Read Mark 4, especially v. 29. “But when the grain ripens, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come." Ask the Lord to show you when to put in your sickle for harvest.
Day 41: Read Matthew 13:1-23. Understand the process of harvest.
Day 42: Read Matthew 13:24-58. Understand the process of wheat and tares. Ask Him to reveal and release your treasures.
Day 43: Read Matthew 14. Ask the Lord to teach you to multiply and take you past the half way point.
Day 44: Read Psalm 1 and 2. Thank Him for your personal harvest. Thank Him for the harvest He has in the nations.
Day 45: Read John 4:1-34. Ask Him to show you the “woman at the well”.
Day 46: Read John 4:39-54. Declare someone you know will get to know Him as Savior.
Day 47: Read Rev 14:15. “And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, ‘Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.’” Give thanks for the One Who is able to reap the Harvest of the nations.
Day 48: Read Acts 2. Thank Him for filling you with His Spirit. Receive the wind of the Holy Spirit. Thank Him for the gift of tongues in the Church.
Day 49: Read Acts 19. Declare an awakening in your “Ephesus.”
Day 50: Read I Cor. 16. Ask Him to show you your new door.
elredcrow
August 26th, 2004, 10:40 PM
What do you mean by your response?
You're saying you won't comment?
You don't like the Message version of the Lord's Prayer either?
Its not a continuation of the Purpose Driven program?
Please explain.
I am saying NO NO NO to this obvious misinterpretation....
and I am not sure what you mean about it not being a continuation of the Purpose Driven program... but oh well
seeker42
August 27th, 2004, 12:42 AM
See the following recent thread starting at post # 14 for more information about
Peterson and his new (& bad) version:
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?p=1975194&highlight=understood+words+%93above+below%94#post1975194
Seeker
Patty T
August 27th, 2004, 09:18 AM
I don't see anything wrong with the 50 day prayer focus, but I have a HUGE problem with the Message version of the Lord's Prayer.
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