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Mailman Dan
July 13th, 2004, 06:42 PM
I've collected a stock of resources for those who would like to learn how to witness and share their faith. Most people know what they believe, but very few are ever taught how to share, or what to say. Think of the eternal fate of your family members who die without Christ, and know there is only a certain amount of time left to reach them. The following kits are made for you who have no clue on what to say to them.

The kits include:

1 VHS tape of several Way Of The Master shows. These are taped directly from the TV show, in which they go out in the street and witness, and show you the bibical way in which to explain why a person needs a Savior.

1 DVD on True and False conversion. All Way Of the Master material in non-copy right, one of the signs of a good minstery. True and False conversion explains bibically, why people fall away from the faith.

2 types of Cd's. Hells best Kept secret (by Kirk Cameron..with tracts inside the cd cases) to give to friends, plus a True and False conversion cd by Ray comfort. (You can hear them for free online here http://www.thewayofthemaster.com/ )

A small collection of tracts.

They are not kits to give to unbelievers, but kits designed with training believers in how to share your faith by mirroring what Jesus did. All believers are commanded by God to spread the message, but most don't know how. Less than 2% of believers share their faith on a regular basis.

Cost:
The kits are totally free, you don't even have to pay postage. Some people give their lives for Christ, so I can sure afford some tapes and Cd's. I only ask two things. One, listen to either of the free audio lessons here (http://www.thewayofthemaster.com/) first, so you will have an idea of what your getting. The copies in the kits are for friends you think might be interested. Many of my co-workers, friends, and even my Swan's man have shown them in their Sunday school classes.

Second, don't ask for one if you do not have the time to commit to watching the program. It has taken many hours to get all the kits together, and it'd be a waste sitting on a shelf while someone else wants one to try to bring a dying friend to Christ. If you do not now have the time to watch and read, (a few hours or so) PM me when you do.

Think it through before just picking up free stuff. If you have the time and desire to learn how to share your faith, then by all means PM me. I have 10 kits ready to go out tomorrow, and will be more than happy to whip up more as needed. I have a handfull of fulfilled prophecy books as well, so if you want one, get them while supplies last.

Dan~~~>taking orders via PM only

Paul
July 13th, 2004, 08:46 PM
bump

frisian1970
July 14th, 2004, 10:50 AM
I've collected a stock of resources for those who would like to learn how to witness and share their faith.

:confused Isn't the Holy Spirit enough? Seems like "he" would be a good enough resource.

ChristineMarie
July 14th, 2004, 06:06 PM
sounds like a winner Dan.

hook me up and I will share them with our outreach ministry as well.

Mailman Dan
July 14th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Isn't the Holy Spirit enough? Seems like "he" would be a good enough resource.

Didn't you go to school to learn how to read? You also go to church for spirtual growth. If you want to learn how to witness, the video tape of people going out in the street and doing it can help you know what to expect.

Frisian, I know your not my #1 fan, you like 19th on the list or something, but I would not take the time if the material had not helped me, nor would RR add a link to the home page, if it would not be helpful to someone. Maybe you don't need it, but someone else might. Very few churches have teachings on how to witness or what to expect.

Dan~~~>really just trying to be helpful

frisian1970
July 14th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Didn't you go to school to learn how to read? You also go to church for spirtual growth. If you want to learn how to witness, the video tape of people going out in the street and doing it can help you know what to expect.

Frisian, I know your not my #1 fan, you like 19th on the list or something, but I would not take the time if the material had not helped me, nor would RR add a link to the home page, if it would not be helpful to someone. Maybe you don't need it, but someone else might. Very few churches have teachings on how to witness or what to expect.

Dan~~~>really just trying to be helpful

:lol I am not your enemy either Dan.

Actually I have gotten more spiritual understanding through this board than at church.

Mailman Dan
July 14th, 2004, 07:51 PM
Actually I have gotten more spiritual understanding through this board than at church.

That would be true for me as well, and I went to a Christian school. Unless you get pratical use of the materials you thought you knew, you lack growth. (which is something I lacked until reading RR)

As far as my personal usefulness from the materials here, they have helped me greatly in knowing how to share my faith, from where to leave tracts to what to expect people to say in one-to-one conversations.

I'll give you an example of what changed.

The after first few weeks I started studying on how to mirror Jesus, I stuck up a conversation with a Mormon while getting my oil changed. The old me would have started with the fact that the bible warns not to take books from angels, but I had done that before and knew it would go no where.

Instead, I asked him if he kept the ten commandments, which he said he had. So I went though them, turned out he was just like the rest of us, guilty as sin. Then asked if he thought he would go to heaven or hell in the light of the fact he was guilty, to which he said God forgives everything.

Then I explained how God can not forgive on the basis of repentacne alone, but on the basis of someone taking your punishment and paying your fine. I used an example of him committing a crime and going before the judge. The judge tells him what his fine is for breaking the law, but he can't pay it. Someone he doesn't know pays the fine for him, so the law lets him go, not because of an apology, but because the fine was paid so the law no longer can hold him.

What happened next was really neat. The guy said he never did understand why Jesus needed die, until he heard that example. He then decided to leave his faith because they left out something important.

I don't know that the guy ever became a Christian, but I do know I had the best results I could hope for, because I knew how to explain it. The Holy Spirit convicts a person, the law kills him, and fear, I hope, drives him to the cross.

It doesn't mean the are not better ways to witness, but this program has helped me know what to say and what to expect. They show you by doing it.

Dan~~~>will be more than happy to send you one (BTW Paul, if you want one too, I need you address again...my wife throws everything away)

architectlink
July 15th, 2004, 12:51 PM
Mailman Dan,

Please don't let detractors pull you away from your ministry.

THIS IS A GREAT IDEA AND kudos to you for doing it and offering it free.

I think that people who try to tear other Christians down should be banned from this board, but I don't know how to report smart alec responses.

Mailman Dan
July 15th, 2004, 05:47 PM
I don't think anyone is out to get me, except maybe the government. I do know that one of their teachings (true and false conversion) has hit a nerve with a LOT of people. The teaching is sound, but makes people uneasy, knowing that God will make them give account of every word and every deed. Can't say i'm just overjoyed when hearing it, but it is bibically sound. Fear is the best thing to help keep us walking the narrow path though...

I've got 2 fullfilled prophecy books left, so anyone still thinking about it who wants one, let me know soon.

Dan~~~>wishes he could give out evidence bibles too

frisian1970
July 15th, 2004, 05:58 PM
Mailman Dan,

Please don't let detractors pull you away from your ministry.

I don't disagree at ALL with what he is doing here. I merely posed a question to attain a greater understanding and it certainly has piqued my interest.



I think that people who try to tear other Christians down should be banned from this board, but I don't know how to report smart alec responses.

If this refers to me, the little police "button" in the upper right hand of my post.

I am glad you can read my intent as I poke and prod in order to come to a greater understanding. I am not attempting to tear anyone down.

frisian1970
July 15th, 2004, 06:00 PM
I do know that one of their teachings (true and false conversion) has hit a nerve with a LOT of people.

:lol Yeah, the first time you presented that it indeed hit a nerve with me, so much so it caused me to put myself under the "microscope", in fact I was thinking about just that on my drive into work today. My head is more in tune with God's word than my heart and actions/fruits, and I believe that is something I need to pray about and alter.

:sigh

Mailman Dan
July 15th, 2004, 06:18 PM
Trust me Frisian, my hit nerve counter is much higher than yours. :lol

I know your not as big of a trouble maker as I am. With around 5 years of hanging around here, I know I have a few people who dislike me. (maybe more than the mods do) I don't think anyone "hates" anyone else here, but I sure step on toes often.

And your right about the True/False conversion audio. It was probably the first time I ever heard someone say to question your salvation and look at your walk. Really and eye opener for me.

Dan~~~>had to clean out some areas and still working on others

frisian1970
July 15th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Trust me Frisian, my hit nerve counter is much higher than yours. :lol

Well if you aren't ticking someone off, you aren't really saying much at times.

:):

I know your not as big of a trouble maker as I am.

You may have that title without a challenge.

:lol


And your right about the True/False conversion audio. It was probably the first time I ever heard someone say to question your salvation and look at your walk. Really and eye opener for me.

Did you feel as though you were a false convert at the time?

Dan~~~>had to clean out some areas and still working on others I think I am still leaning toward my own will rather than God's WAY too often.

Mailman Dan
July 15th, 2004, 07:01 PM
Did you feel as though you were a false convert at the time?

Hard question to answer, but I can try. Yes and No. (how's that?)

I had to put my faith in Christ alone to save me, so I didn't feel as if I was a false convert. I did, however, feel as if I were a dead tree, with no fruit. I noticed how I threw accountability of my actions into the wind, perhaps not seeing that what I thought was a small sin, was really big in the sight of God. What it did for me, was to make me VERY aware that if I did believe in Christ alone to save me, I'd do my best all the time to keep from sinning again, without rationalizing in my mind that any sin was ok.

I think I am still leaning toward my own will rather than God's WAY too often.

The bible is very clear, there is no one that seeks after God, not even one. We seek our own desires, and seldom Gods. I think that will forever be an on going struggle among those living.

If you want some of this material, pm me your addy. I got plenty left. The majority of the material is to give away, mostly tracts and Kirks audio on soundly saved.

Dan~~~>can even toss in a prophecy booklet

Tinkerbell
July 16th, 2004, 12:00 PM
Mailman Dan
I would like some of your info. I am not sure how to pm yet. Am working on it so please keep some for me.

frisian1970
July 16th, 2004, 01:11 PM
Hard question to answer, but I can try. Yes and No. (how's that?)

I had to put my faith in Christ alone to save me, so I didn't feel as if I was a false convert. I did, however, feel as if I were a dead tree, with no fruit. I noticed how I threw accountability of my actions into the wind, perhaps not seeing that what I thought was a small sin, was really big in the sight of God. What it did for me, was to make me VERY aware that if I did believe in Christ alone to save me, I'd do my best all the time to keep from sinning again, without rationalizing in my mind that any sin was ok.

Hmmm. NO fruit? I guess I question mine at times, I don't think I have no fruit whatsoever. How do you know the difference between the "Accuser" and conviction? Is it the focus of such? Self as opposed to God?




The bible is very clear, there is no one that seeks after God, not even one. We seek our own desires, and seldom Gods. I think that will forever be an on going struggle among those living.

But wouldn't that suggest a lack of fruit then? Really just trying to understand, not attack your opinion.

Mailman Dan
July 16th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Hey Tinker, I got your message via e-mail. It'll be on its way tomorrow.


Fris, let me send you a pack if you haven't seen the show. There's nothing in there you won't disagree with, plus you can at least give out the tracts.

How do you know the difference between the "Accuser" and conviction? Is it the focus of such? Self as opposed to God?

Conviction of sin and fear of Gods justice is what drives a man to repent. Saddly, Christians no longer address the sin, and few know what the word means. (sin is the transgression of the law 1 John 3:4) Being an "accuser" is not necessary, because there is not a person on this earth that has not sinned. It is necessary to point out what sin is to person, not to judge them, but to show them why they need a Savior.

Galatians 3:24
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith

Romans 3:19-20
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

The bible is very clear, there is no one that seeks after God, not even one. We seek our own desires, and seldom Gods. I think that will forever be an on going struggle among those living.

But wouldn't that suggest a lack of fruit then?

It's human nature to sin, and no one is perfect. We all lack fruit, and no ammount of works could ever earn salvation. But working to do things for God alone, and not for ourselves, is something we should shoot for. Our goal is to win souls, and bring glory to God. I can try to do both, but I fail as a human. I will none the less, TRY.

Dan~~~>has a package with your name on it

HeIsEnough
July 16th, 2004, 10:14 PM
I'll take some, Dano.

Mailman Dan
July 16th, 2004, 10:27 PM
Got you covered.(send me your addy) Anyone who has anything broken or not working (tapes, cds, or dvd's) let me know so I can send replacements.(lousey postal workers) I have 2 full kits left, but i'm already starting more. I will get anyone who needs one whatever resources I can.


Dan~~~>still taking orders

livingingrace
July 17th, 2004, 01:26 PM
I'd like to have these to share in an outreach program.
Oh! Thanks so much!
Blessings~
Sue

Mailman Dan
July 17th, 2004, 06:41 PM
My last 2 full kits just got picked up, but i'm working on new ones right now. PM me and i'll make sure to get them to you asap. Keep sending in orders, and i'll keep making them. I am running low on tracts, but I should have a few to go around.

Dan~~~>will keep working on them till everyone gets one who wants one

Mailman Dan
July 19th, 2004, 07:19 PM
For all those who already got the kits, those tracts can be found on this site.

http://livingwaters.com/

They are cheap, and they have a large assortment. I didn't get much use out of the pressed pennies, but the other money based ones did go over well, along with the joke books.

They also have several free audio lessons about witnessing if you need more ideas.


Dan~~~>still taking orders

1Heavenbound
July 20th, 2004, 08:07 PM
Dan sent me the kit and I couldn't have been more pleased with it. Actually Dan, I should have emailed you and let you know that due to the kit you sent to me, I was able to help win my first soul to Christ! :clap

Dan, you're doing a wonderful job for the Lord! Keep up the great work, I know you will!

YSIC,
D. :hug

Mailman Dan
July 20th, 2004, 09:45 PM
That is So COOL! I didn't do much of anything myself, Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron put that material out, copyright free, so people can reproduce it. (and that doesn't cost much, other than time)

It still takes a lot of one to one conversation, and i'm glad you had the guts to do it. I still shy away sometimes...


Dan~~~>glad you could use it:thumb

livingingrace
July 23rd, 2004, 08:41 PM
Dan,
My package came today. I cannot thank you enough for all you sent. Have been watching the video and God has been working in my heart. My extended family HAS to come to know the truth and this may be the way for them to see the truth. Wish I had the means to duplicate (what is allowed only) and do what you are doing. What a gift to us all.
Did a six month subscription to RR (thank you for the prompt to do so!).
Again, my thanks - and prayers for your blessings...
Sue

In His Name
July 24th, 2004, 01:37 PM
Dan, is that the same stuff you sent to me?

The plan now is to attempt to have the video playing as people are trying their food at the Tasters Delight. I will more then likely be making more copies of the cds as well. Thank you so much for this great information.

Mailman Dan
July 24th, 2004, 06:58 PM
Same stuff...

All materials are non-copy right. Much like RR does, they only ask you don't change anything, not that I could edit what I taped off the TV anyway. :lol I'm not doing anything special myself, but they are a heck of a minstery to put witnessing in front of making money.

http://livingwaters.com/

All those materials, plus tons more free audios, tracts, and videos can be found there, dirt cheap. Anyone who has a youth group or a sunday school class that's learning how to witness, thats the best place to get quality items.

Right now, I only have 1 ready kit left. My wife will have a minor surgery the middle of next week, which gives me a few days off to catch up. Anyone who still wants one, Pm me any time so I can plan, but it'll probably be next saturday before I can get the next batch out. They are free, and it's not really costing me anything either.

Best of luck for those who are getting ready to witness. Sometimes, it takes more guts to share your faith than stare down a pit bull. But once you know what to say, and a heavy amount of prayer, it can get easier.

Dan~~~>hopes it's helpful to someone

Singlesis
July 25th, 2004, 10:31 PM
Dan, thank-you so much for what you are doing. I got my kit, and love everything I've seen so far. I haven't had a chance to view all of it yet but I can't wait.

Our church is going in the PDC/PDL direction, and this is a great opportunity for me to share this with my singles' class - what we're supposed to be doing instead of focusing on $$ and image. Perfect timing! :D:

Thanks again, and God bless!!!

ChristineMarie
July 28th, 2004, 09:18 AM
I just got mine too. I really liked the tracks, I will pop in the video tonight and check out the rest.

Thanks Again for what you are doing.

Does Schu have one of these kits?

He's been on my mind.

Mailman Dan
July 28th, 2004, 04:00 PM
I gave him a bunch of the stuff before sending him back accross the pond, plus we watched a few of the shows here. He goes out with a team witnessing from time to time, so I should send him some more stuff...next time he passes through.


Dan~~~>was just wondering about him today