Conversations with the Holy Trinity.

[Mongoose60]

Has anyone else noticed out there,that the Holy Trinity is contacting them more often than ever before?Before 8/02,I was contacted only once,when I was given some words from the HS,concerning an issue at my church.But from 8/02,and onward,I've been contacted a number of times,on different things.Interesting................

[sunshine4jesus]

Hi Mongoose,
I am not quite sure what you mean by being contacted by the H.G.

What I can tell you is that for the past 2 years God has been on my mind, in my heart pretty much 24/7.
I seem to get a lot more understanding from the Bible. I don't think I got more intelligent, either. :laugh
I have had faith for a lot of years. Always had a love for God and the Bible. Jesus is my Rock.
It is just like it is now all important and urgent.
Know what I mean?

Daniel 12:9-10 may be why.

[Mongoose60]

I think that the key word here is urgent.It would certainly explain to me as to why the Holy Spirit has contacted me as much as it has,since 8/02.:nod

[onsolidrock]

Originally posted by Mongoose60
I think that the key word here is urgent.It would certainly explain to me as to why the Holy Spirit has contacted me as much as it has,since 8/02.:nod

Just how is one "contacted" by the Holy Spirit? By carrier dove?:D:

[jon uk]

perhaps you did not hear previously ;):

[Jany]

Since the Holy Spirit endwells the Believer, I would think that each Believer is "contacted" by the Holy Spirit each minute of the day http://www.frinkian.com/images/smiles/heart.gif <><

[hopemail]

"I would think that each Believer is "contacted" by the Holy Spirit each minute of the day"

the only relationship I know

[Carlosabc]

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"It would certainly explain to me as to why the Holy Spirit has contacted me as much as it has,since 8/02.
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Is the Holy Spirit an "it"? or a 'He'?

[B A N E]

Carlosabc needs to re-read that sentence.
No where did Mongoose imply the HS was an it.

"It would explain"
The IT refers to something prior and not something later.
That thing was the increased frequency of contact (urgent).

Regardless, in the OT, Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit)
is feminine.

How's that for a kink in the works?

[Mongoose60]

I wonder myself if the Holy Ghost is feminine,because the way that I hear the HG speaks to me would make me want to say yes.

[onsolidrock]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mongoose60
Has anyone else noticed out there,that the Holy Trinity is contacting them more often than ever before?Before 8/02,I was contacted only once,when I was given some words from the HS,concerning an issue at my church.But from 8/02,and onward,I've been contacted a number of times,on different things.Interesting................ [/QUOTE

What happened on 8/02?

[Mongoose60]

From 8/02,I started to get a fair number of messages from the HS,on different things.So I'am courious if anyone else out there,has been getting contacted more-so during the past few years than compared to all of the years that they have been alive.

[7Rock]

Originally posted by B A N E
Regardless, in the OT, Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit)
is feminine.

How's that for a kink in the works?

What?:confused

Can someone please explain this to me?

[onsolidrock]

Originally posted by 7Rock
What?:confused

Can someone please explain this to me?

The Holy Spirit is a Spirit and as such does not have gender. Just because the Hebrew words are feminine does not make the Holy Spirit feminine.

[onsolidrock]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mongoose60
From 8/02,I started to get a fair number of messages from the HS,on different things.So I'am courious if anyone else out there,has been getting contacted more-so during the past few years than compared to all of the years that they have been alive. [/QUOTE

Actually no. It has become easier to recognise the workings of the HS though. I don't hear voices. It is usually either a thought that enters my mind that I know that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. Other times it is a feeling of peace about a situation. Like I don't have a clue how God is going to resolve a situation but I have a feeling of peace knowing that He will resolve it.

Just curious, Have any of your "contacts" been about Joel's Army?

[B A N E]

Originally posted by 7Rock
What?:confused
Can someone please explain this to me?

Greetings,

Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit) in the OT is feminine in gender.
(the text/language).

In the NT, Greek, it is gender neutral.

While this is not proof that the HS is feminine, something to
consider is that when God created man (in Genesis), He said,
"let us create them in our image male and female"

God the Father has clearly taken on the patriarchal position.
God the Son has clearly taken on the male heir position.
God the Spirit acts in a much more maternal way than the other
aspects of the trinity.

Does this mean the HS is feminine?
I don't subscribe to God having genitalia...
BUT, female is created in the image of God as is male.

Feminine attributes ARE from God.
Thus, there must be some feminine aspects/attributes to God.

Are these reserved primarily in the HS?
Possibly, but Scripture IS NOT declarative on this.

Thus, NO position can be taken with any authority from Scripture.
HTH

[Mongoose60]

The HS,has contacted me about some interesting aspects to what will transpire after the PreTrib Rapture has taken place.And the info is a good thing in how it relates to the Great Revival getting kicked off into action.

I know that others here at RR,have different views on what Joel's Army is all about.My take on this, is that this is the force that will make the Great Revival be what it is.A landmark too be sure.I see this army as being of 3 parts - 1.Two witnesses. 2. 144,000 young jewish males who will play roles as missionaries. 3. Gentiles who are raised up by God,to be missionaries as well.

When you look down from Heaven,after the Rapture event,count on being surprised as to how this group responds during this dark period of earth's history.you'll also be surprised as to some of the people in this group as well.

Remember:this is a good thing.:wave

[hopemail]

"Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit) in the OT is feminine in gender."
"Feminine attributes ARE from God. Thus, there must be some feminine aspects/attributes to God."

my understanding to the letter
I believe the sweetness and gentleness of the Holy Spirit can be ascribed to this truth...
While G-D is Father with me, I can certainly understand the nurturing, caring, Holy Spirit (Comforter) being referred to by feminine references in the Word...

[Mongoose60]

Good point hopemail.

[onsolidrock]

Originally posted by Mongoose60
The HS,has contacted me about some interesting aspects to what will transpire after the PreTrib Rapture has taken place.And the info is a good thing in how it relates to the Great Revival getting kicked off into action.



I don't believe that the Holy Spirit has contacted anyone about any events that will take place after the Rapture when we won't be here. Any contact of that nature is either from a false spirit or the workings of an overactive imagination.

Although there will be a few people who will be saved during the Tribulation, the number will be a small percentage of the world's population. Hardly enough for a "Great Revival". I don't know where you get the idea that there will be a great revival. Do you have any scriptural backup?

I know that others here at RR,have different views on what Joel's Army is all about.My take on this, is that this is the force that will make the Great Revival be what it is.A landmark too be sure.I see this army as being of 3 parts - 1.Two witnesses. 2. 144,000 young jewish males who will play roles as missionaries. 3. Gentiles who are raised up by God,to be missionaries as well.

Joel tells us what God's army will be.
[JOE 2:25] And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.


When you look down from Heaven,after the Rapture event,count on being surprised as to how this group responds during this dark period of earth's history.you'll also be surprised as to some of the people in this group as well.

I highly doubt if we will be able to watch the events on Earth from Heaven.

Remember:this is a good thing.:wave

It's too bad that it isn't true.

[Werner]

onsolidrock, :wave

How about this (Note: Not applying this to Joel's Army, as I believe that is different, but about many being saved):

During the Trib:

Revelation 6:9-11

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Revelation 7:9-17

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Revelation 15:2-4

And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

We know we are watching events on Earth from Heaven because at various times we are told to worship and praise God when certain events occur, and there are times we are shown to be praising God without needing any encouragement.

Also "anyone" is a rather broad brush, as John was obviously contacted and shown the things that will occur after, and so was Isaiah and Ezekiel, and many others. I think you meant "today" people are not contacted about what awaits us all, yet I don't think you will find Scripture to support the view that God doesn't now show people things He desires them to know or see. It may not be something that is a "Thus saith the Lord..." that is meant for everyone to hear and understand, but God deals with individuals as well as all of us collectively...

IMHO :D:

Maranatha! :dancing

John

[onsolidrock]

onsolidrock,

How about this (Note: Not applying this to Joel's Army, as I believe that is different, but about many being saved):

During the Trib:

Revelation 6:9-11

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

One thing that is interesting here is that everyone who becomes a Christian during the tribulation will be killed for their faith. This doesn't leave room for any organization such as large churches. If Christians are able to meet together at all it will have to be in small groups such as house churches and it will have to be in secret. As far as people meeting in a large groups for "revival meetings" that will be impossible. The only way that Christianity will spread during the tribulation is by one on one witnessing and even that will have to be closely guarded. If you witness to just anyone you won't live very long. This makes a "Great Revival" almost impossible.

Revelation 7:9-17

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

A great multitude is more than one man can count. How long would it take one man to count say 10,000? 100,000? There are 6 Billion people in the world today. Even 100,000 is a pretty small percentage of the total. But, look at how the term great multitudes is used in the Gospels.

[MAT 12:15] But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

If Jesus healed them one at a time, it was not a large number of people.

[MAT 13:2] And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

Jesus then taught them from the boat. The great multitude could not have been more than could hear Him.

[MAT 15:30] And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, maimed, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus' feet; and he healed them:

This turns out to be the four thousand men that Jesus fed with seven fish and a few peices of bread. Even if you include women and children that's not much over ten thousand.

A great multitude then can be only a few thousand. That is still a pretty small percentage of six billion.

Notice also that these saints are from all nations. That means that they were not from one group. The actual numbers could be very small from each country. When the antichrist comes those that will accept him and his mark will be under a great delusion, a great lie. It will be very difficult for anyone to see through that delusion. It is amazing that anyone will be saved during the tribulation.

We know we are watching events on Earth from Heaven because at various times we are told to worship and praise God when certain events occur, and there are times we are shown to be praising God without needing any encouragement.

That might be something that we won't know for sure until we get there.

Also "anyone" is a rather broad brush, as John was obviously contacted and shown the things that will occur after, and so was Isaiah and Ezekiel, and many others. I think you meant "today" people are not contacted about what awaits us all, yet I don't think you will find Scripture to support the view that God doesn't now show people things He desires them to know or see. It may not be something that is a "Thus saith the Lord..." that is meant for everyone to hear and understand, but God deals with individuals as well as all of us collectively...

Yes, I meant today. Obviously we are not writing Scripture today as John, Isaiah, and Ezekial were.
I don't believe that God would show an individual things that affect all of us collectively today.
The Holy Spirit dwells within each of us. He convicts us of sin and shows us truths from Scripture. You might be hard pressed to prove from Scripture that He shows us future events today.

[Mondej]

"You might be hard pressed to prove from Scripture that He shows us future events today."

How about Amos 3:7-and please don't say this was only for
Old Testament times- remember "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever"

John 16:13- "He will convict you of sin and show you things to
come."

How about the example of Agabus in the book of Acts who
prophesied of a famine- this happened after the resurrection.

And my favorite of all to those who don't agree with prophesying
in our day and age- 1 Thess.5:17- "Do not despise prophesying."

[Mongoose60]

Believe me that it is quite true about how the Holy Trinity still contacts people during these times.Plenty of RR members have had this experience,so this is nothing new at all.When the Rapture first takes place,the AC won't have complete control of the world then.The big stick measures,will come,bit by bit.And after the Rapture,there will be many who will go out to save as many souls as possible.I will state right here,right now,that at least 1,000,000,000 will become saved after the Rapture takes place.:nod

The Holy Trinity is not going to pull it's punches after the Church is taken up into the heavens.You can count on that.Major work will be done then.And of course,praise God for it.

[Mondej]

Hey Mongoose, did you hear the Holy Spirit clearly tell you that
the harvest will be after the rapture? Because if this is so we
should have no more than a week or two before it happens, as
I firmly believe that the movie "The Passion" is going to kick off
this final revival.

[Mongoose60]

The Great Revival harvest,takes place during the Trib years.This is simply based upon what the Bible states.One of the things that the HS has informed me of ( without going into details ) is that the Holy Trinity has been very active these days to secure the people needed,to carry out the harvest after the Rapture event takes place.

We are certainly getting close to the big uplift,simply because of the many signs we have been seeing.What more can we want.:thumb

[Mongoose60]

This would certainly be a good thing to pray about - that the Holy Trinity gets all the workers that they need for when the harvest time begins.:nod :angel

[onsolidrock]

Originally posted by Mondej
"You might be hard pressed to prove from Scripture that He shows us future events today."

How about Amos 3:7-and please don't say this was only for
Old Testament times- remember "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever"

By this I assume that you believe that God has continued to add to the Bible over the last 1900 years through His Prophets? How many volumes does your Bible consist of? What exactly has been added in the last 1900 years?


John 16:13- "He will convict you of sin and show you things to
come."

How about the example of Agabus in the book of Acts who
prophesied of a famine- this happened after the resurrection.

And my favorite of all to those who don't agree with prophesying
in our day and age- 1 Thess.5:17- "Do not despise prophesying."

[1CO 13:8] Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

This verse says that prophecies are going to stop.

[1CO 13:10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

This verse tells us when. Perfect means complete and also means an object, not a person. The only object that fits is the Bible.

[1CO 13:13] And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Love, faith and hope all continue after the three gifts all stop. Hope is looking forward with confidence to an event that is going to happen. What event?

[TIT 2:13] Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Prophecy has to stop before the Coming of Christ. Again the Completion of the Bible when John finished writing Rev, about 96 A.D. is the only thing that fits.

Some people try to make hope continue after Jesus comes but that neither makes sense nor fits the context.

Rememger 1 Thess 5;20 was written before the Bible was completed while prophecy was still an active gift.

[onsolidrock]

Originally posted by Mongoose60
The Great Revival harvest,takes place during the Trib years.This is simply based upon what the Bible states.

Where in the Bible does it state that there will be a "great Revival" during the Trib years?

[Mongoose60]

Werner has already beaten me to the punch line on this one,as the Bible itself states - Rev. 7 verses 9-17.These concern the many that are killed during the Great Revival/Trib years.So,don't worry,all is not lost.But I still wish that more can be saved.The pop. on earth,is already over 6.2 billion in size.Too many are in Hades already!

[Mondej]

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Originally posted by Mondej
"You might be hard pressed to prove from Scripture that He shows us future events today."

How about Amos 3:7-and please don't say this was only for
Old Testament times- remember "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever"
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By this I assume that you believe that God has continued to add to the Bible over the last 1900 years through His Prophets? How many volumes does your Bible consist of? What exactly has been added in the last 1900 years?"

The point is that God is still in the habit of speaking to his children,
warning to prepare if he sees danger or hard times coming. He
has to; he would not be a loving father if he didn't do otherwise.
The fact is God speaks to His children, if He didn't where would
the relationship be? Above all else, relationship is what God
desires with us; there is no relationship if only one part does
the talking. And He will tell us not to cross the street if he knows
there is somebody there waiting to mug us; this is no different
than telling America to shape up or you will be judged. Love
demands that he speak and warn about what He's about to do.


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John 16:13- "He will convict you of sin and show you things to
come."

How about the example of Agabus in the book of Acts who
prophesied of a famine- this happened after the resurrection.

And my favorite of all to those who don't agree with prophesying
in our day and age- 1 Thess.5:17- "Do not despise prophesying."
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[1CO 13:8] Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

This verse says that prophecies are going to stop.

[1CO 13:10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

This verse tells us when. Perfect means complete and also means an object, not a person. The only object that fits is the Bible.

end quote

Perfect means an object not a person. What dictionary did you
get that out of? Of course perfect can mean a person, if that
person is Jesus Christ, and that is what this verse is saying. The spiritual gifts will cease at His 2nd coming; that's when they will no longer be needed. No offense, but take a look around you at the world we live in. Do you really think they are not necessary today?