Hypothetical question...

[Ragnvald]

Can a Christian, who found out that he is HIV +, be forgiven?

I know a guy who has made some dumb mistakes/choices in the last 2 yrs or so and he is worried that he might be +. He doesn't want to take the test. He is not currently in a relationship with anyone.


Any helpful and Christ-centered responses would be appreciated. :):

[Joshua's Gen]

God's grace is immeasurable - that's just what He sent His own only son for.

The answer is absolutely - yes - love, and the blood of Jesus covers, and removes, a multitude of sins - as far as the east is from the west. :):

We still live with the reprecussions of bad choices, and sinful actions - but in God's eyes - He doesn't remember any of it if you're under the blood.

:nod

[Now You See HIM]

I know that this is not what you're expecting, but (as usual) it's probably best for me to post a link to a group that might be able to help out...

www.heintendsvictory.com

P.S.: Edited to add that I am in definite agreement with JG. (I started my original reply before he posted his.)

[joelch2]

There is only ONE unforgivable sin, and being HIV + isn't it. :):

[Joshua's Gen]

Originally posted by joelch2
There is only ONE unforgivable sin, and being HIV + isn't it. :):

:nod

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

[kerri]

Absolutely- God is gracious and forgiving when we turn to Him!

David basically had Uriah murdered so that he could marry his wife, whom he had already had an affair with and gotten pregnant... when he sought God's forgiveness through true repentance- God was gracious and forgave him...

However- even after repenting, he still had to live with the consequences of his actions.... God took his child as a result of their sin and calamity was brought upon him from within his own household (as God had said because of the sin he committed)....

2 Samuel 12:
10 Now, therefore, the sword will never depart from your house, because you despised me and took the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your own.'
11 "This is what the LORD says: 'Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity upon you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will lie with your wives in broad daylight. 12 You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.' "
13 Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the LORD ."
Nathan replied, "The LORD has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have made the enemies of the LORD show utter contempt, the son born to you will die."

[Ragnvald]

...even when his wrong choices included homosexuality?

[joelch2]

Originally posted by Ragnvald
...even when his wrong choices included homosexuality?

Yes! :):

[Joshua's Gen]

Also 'Yes'ing. :):

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

[HVAC]

Originally posted by Ragnvald
...even when his wrong choices included homosexuality?

even when his wrong choices included homosexuality, adultery, murder, idol worship, witch craft, covetting, satanism, lying, .......you get the idea.


Forgiveness is something humans have trouble with.

Forgiveness is something God created. He doesn't have a problem with it. We just have to ask for it.

Besides, being HIV+ isn't a sin. It is just a result of sin. Whether it be a sin of ours or someone else's.

YBIC

Gary

[Ragnvald]

Originally posted by Now You See HIM
I know that this is not what you're expecting, but (as usual) it's probably best for me to post a link to a group that might be able to help out...

www.heintendsvictory.com

P.S.: Edited to add that I am in definite agreement with JG. (I started my original reply before he posted his.)

Thank you Now for the link. I ordered both of the free books. :):

....My friend is having a hard time, because he knows that his choices have lead to where he is now. He is very hard on himself and he just can't forgive himself, even though he knows that God is abundantly gracious and forgiving. Please pray for him...

His parents don't know and he won't tell them if he is +. It would just destroy the family for they don't know that he was involved with homosexuality. He feels that it would be better if things were quiet and hush. I agree with him.

[kerri]

Originally posted by Ragnvald
...even when his wrong choices included homosexuality?

Yes. :nod

[ylf1999]

Originally posted by Ragnvald
Can a Christian, who found out that he is HIV +, be forgiven?

I know a guy who has made some dumb mistakes/choices in the last 2 yrs or so and he is worried that he might be +. He doesn't want to take the test. He is not currently in a relationship with anyone.


Any helpful and Christ-centered responses would be appreciated. :):

um.... Why wouldn't Jesus forgive him of his sins? I mean yeah it sounds like your friend might have been a homosexual relationship and if he was and has repented of the sin Jesus will forgive him.

regardless of the fact he has HIV.

I am praying for you friend

[Patty T]

Originally posted by Joshua's Gen
God's grace is immeasurable - that's just what He sent His own only son for.

The answer is absolutely - yes - love, and the blood of Jesus covers, and removes, a multitude of sins - as far as the east is from the west. :):

We still live with the reprecussions of bad choices, and sinful actions - but in God's eyes - He doesn't remember any of it if you're under the blood.

:nod

In agreement with my brother on this.

Thank God for Jesus and His shed blood.

We are all in need of forgiveness.

I am praying for you and your friend, that God will give you wisdom, discernment and compassion for your friend, and that the Father will manifest Himself in a very real and powerful way. Praying that he will sense His presense and know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he is forgiven, in Jesus name.

[Jacob]

Originally posted by Ragnvald
Can a Christian, who found out that he is HIV +, be forgiven?

I know a guy who has made some dumb mistakes/choices in the last 2 yrs or so and he is worried that he might be +. He doesn't want to take the test. He is not currently in a relationship with anyone.


Any helpful and Christ-centered responses would be appreciated. :):

First, God can and will forgive all sin if the person repents and receives the Lord Jesus Christ into their lives as their personal Lord and Savior. HIV itself is not a sin. And, some people have innocently acquired this virus through no fault of their own, like transfusions.

Second, your friend should get tested. He might have made some sinful choices, but it is possible that he might not be infected.

[pamaris]

Ditto to everything said here. Jesus can and will forgive your friend if he repents and makes the choice to turn to Jesus instead of his sinful ways.

One thing to consider... he will need to continue in repentance (i.e. turning from his ways of homosexuality) even if he is not HIV positive. Often people are repentant as long as they have the fear of God, but when things start going OK again they slip back into their former ways and forget what God has done for them.

[keeotee]

Sounds like you are a good friend to him. That's a good thing.

Tell your friend he isn't the only one that struggles with being forgiven of something. Also tell him to get it straight and clear in his mind the difference in feelings I think he is probably having. I suppose he is dealing with guilt, regret, sorrow, both for sinning and the lifestyle and for the consequences and otrher things. He needs, I think, to be clear on distinguishing these various feelings and the thoughts that go with them so that he can better know the sources and this should reduce somoe confusion he might be having too. Just a thought.