Jesus is God question

[Creeper]

I know Jesus is God, but I have friends and relatives that do not

believe this, they say Jesus is the son but not God......so my question is....does this affect thier salvation?

I believe the Bible says we must confess Jesus is God...., but

I need to know what you Rangers think????

Please give me some scriptures to use on them....:frusty



Thanks

[joint heir]

1 John
21Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22and receive from him anything we ask, because we obey his commands and do what pleases him. 23And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24Those who obey his commands live in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


John 1


The Word Became Flesh

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men.



hope those can help
:):

[stephanne909]

John 1:1-2

in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.


Jesus said ''I and My Father are one."




Rev 21: 6-7

and He said to me..."It is done. i am the Alpha nd the Omega, the beginning and the end.
vs 7....I will be his God and he shall be My son.


Paul calls Jesus God......in Titus 2:12-13....

we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our GREAT GOD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST>


you cant dent Jesus as God...it is plainly wrote in the scripture...show them this verse in Titus...you cant get around it...Paul calls Jesus our God and Savior.

[Creeper]

very much. :thumb

I will show them the scriptures you sited. BUT


Do you think this will affect their salvation?

Say if they were to die right now, would they be saved?

[Medic911]

IMHO they would be.

I think that God understands that it's a very confusing concept for our human minds to grasp, and so long as one accepts that Jesus is the Son of God, and died on the cross for our sins... and so long as they submit to Jesus and recognize Him as their King and Savior, I do believe that He will forgive and understand their confusion.

[Jacob]

Originally posted by Creeper
I know Jesus is God, but I have friends and relatives that do not

believe this, they say Jesus is the son but not God......so my question is....does this affect thier salvation?

Thanks

Yes. I do believe it does affect their salvation. The apostle Paul wrote in Romans 10:9-10 that an essential element of saving faith is "confessing Jesus as Lord." The word Lord means that we believe in his deity, that He is God.

Jesus is called the Son of God. But what must be understood is that the term "Son" in the Jewish culture meant "one of the same essence," or more simply, that He possessed all of the same attributes and characteristics as His father, God.

Jesus also called Himself the Son of Man, which was also another Messianic title to signify His deity. Whenever the Jews heard him refer to Himself as the Son of God, they attempted to stone Him for blasphemy (John 10) acknowledging that He was claiming to be God. When Jesus claimed to be the Son of Man at His trial, this was the official grounds for his condemnation.

Yes, it is essential to believe that Jesus is God in order to be saved. In order to be forgiven of sins, God required that a sinless substitute sacrifice their life by the sheeding of blood. God was the only one qualified to be our redeemer because there was no other sinless person who could suffer for the sins of humanity.

[joint heir]

imo it matters whether it is a lack of understanding....

If they trust the Lord but they don't understand because they have not studied the Bible enough....(my 5 year old daughter falls into this catagory) then they are saved....

but if they know and understand that Jesus claimed to be God and think he is lying....then their heart is hard and they are not saved....

[KrispyKritter]

Uhmm... how about this one?

John 8:51-59
"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad." Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Seems pretty obvious what He was saying. And judging by the temple rulers reaction... they understood what He meant!

[Zerubabel]

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
for if ye believe not that I am, ye shall die in your sins.

[Note: Most translations add 'he' after "I am," but this was added by the translators for clarity]

[mochamom]

Colossionas 2:9

"For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality"


Paul warned the Colossians about the error of believing Jesus is other than God. This error continued, and becan Gnosticism.

It is worth reading.

Yes, I think this is a question unto salvation. If we say we believe in Jesus, we must believe He is all He said He was.

[chrislb]

Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus say, "I am God." What he does, which is an even greater testimony, is make claims such as these:

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away."
—Matthew 24:35

"I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."
—John 18:38

"No-one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man."
—John 3:13

"The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him."
—John 8:29

"Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?"
—John 8:46

"He who rejects me rejects him who sent me."
—Luke 10:16

"It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
—Mark 2:17

"Whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."
—John 4:14

"Whoever believes in him (Jesus) is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. This is the verdict: light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light."
—John 3:18-21

"I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."
—John 10:10


"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
—John 11:25,26

"Before was, I am."
-John 8:58

"He that hath seen me hath seen the Father."
-John 14:9


There are so many more passages, but the fact that Jesus claims to be the only way to heaven, the only one to give salvation, that we must pray in His name for our prayers to be answered..pretty much sums it up.
In light of the Old Testament where God commands that we worship no other God, Jesus had to have been God to have fulfilled the Old Testament; If Jesus isn't God, there is no sense in being "Christian," we can put the Bible away and go out to "eat, drink, and be merry."

With the exception of children, there is no way someone can claim to be a christian (I mean children also in the "born again" sense) yet deny the deity of Jesus Christ.