Are you Meeked?

[joy4Him2day]

Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Matt.5:5

...a wild horse that has been tamed to accept a saddle and harness is a picture of the Bible's concept of meekness. The horse has been "meeked" to behave in a certain given way, given certain cues, under the authority of designated masters. It no longer bucks or thrashes wildly about in its pen. Rather, the horse has become so gentle that a young child can ride on its back and cause it to move in precise ways at precise times with only the slightest tug of a rein. However, at no time has the horse lost its inner power or strength to run, carry a heavy load, or rear its body against its enemies.
The person who is truly "meeked" by God, and who bears God's likeness of meekness, is a person who is easily directed by God and bears a gentleness of outward demeanor, while at the same time continues to bear great spiritual strength.
Psalm 25:9 The meek will He guide in judgement; and the meek will He teach His way.
Psalm 32:9 Be not like the horse or mule, that have no understanding, whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle.....
Meekness is a chritsian grace. It regards wrong, pain or insult as medicine from God, not a poison from man. The meek are bowed down in humilty before God, and lie passive in His hand.
Vines: Meekness: unwrought grace of the soul-chiefly towards God. It is that temper of spirit in which we accept His dealings with us as good, and therefore without disputing or resisting.
This meekness however, being first of all a meekness before God, is also such in the face of men, even of evil men, out of a sense that these, with the insults and injuries which they may inflict, are permitted and employed by Him for the chastening and purifying of His elect.
Proverbs 21:31 The horse is prepared(meeked) for the day of battle, but deliverance is of the Lord.

our strength gives Him no pleasure. Psalm 147:10.11
His pleasure is not in the strength of the horse, nor his delight in the legs of a man: The Lord delights in those who fear Him, who put their hope in his unfailing love.....



hope this helps a fellow struggler like me.....
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[Steadfast]

I like that a lot! Thanks for posting it! God bless you and Maranatha! :thumb

Your sister in Christ,

Steadfast

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[joy4Him2day]

How would this help marriage? Would this be considered passive aggressive?

bridled strength. surrender to Him vs. surrender to DH.
I have a hard time figuring out when to interject my opinion and when to just blandly follow.......(my DH).
Lots of times, actually, most of the time, he is very wise and I am glad I listened to him, but sometimes, I feel strongly about a certain thing, and tho, I offer my opinion, it is filtered with prejudices formed long ago by my not having opinions. In other words, I usually feel stupid after I express them.....
I have a successful free-lance art business, of which I am supporting us, but am made to feel a lot of times like I should keep my mouth shut and just follow.
I am really feeling emotionally attacked, and I know it is spiritual, and I know this too will pass, but I am trying to change a pattern in our communication that has not worked. Instead of gaining respect for giving DH the lead, I am now considered---not important.....
just having a bad week, I guess.

[Wileyzmuse]

Originally posted by joy4Him2day
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Matt.5:5

It regards wrong, pain or insult as medicine from God, not a poison from man. The meek are bowed down in humilty before God, and lie passive in His hand.


hope this helps a fellow struggler like me.....



Thank you for posting this. I am probably the furthest thing from meek that you can get and still be considered a child of God. :nod I wish sometimes that God would zap me into being more gently, but the truth is that I am usually on my last nerve, getting ready to blow a gasket. Father forgive me.

YSIC,
Patricia

[Hyssop]

Originally posted by joy4Him2day
How would this help marriage? Would this be considered passive aggressive?

bridled strength. surrender to Him vs. surrender to DH.
I have a hard time figuring out when to interject my opinion and when to just blandly follow.......(my DH).
Lots of times, actually, most of the time, he is very wise and I am glad I listened to him, but sometimes, I feel strongly about a certain thing, and tho, I offer my opinion, it is filtered with prejudices formed long ago by my not having opinions. In other words, I usually feel stupid after I express them.....
I have a successful free-lance art business, of which I am supporting us, but am made to feel a lot of times like I should keep my mouth shut and just follow.
I am really feeling emotionally attacked, and I know it is spiritual, and I know this too will pass, but I am trying to change a pattern in our communication that has not worked. Instead of gaining respect for giving DH the lead, I am now considered---not important.....
just having a bad week, I guess.

Interesting post.

Since I work with animals and livestock so much I have often thought about some of the same types of things. There is a lot of similarities in being a good student/child of God if you look at- say how horses for instance react to training...what is actually best for them. Especially by those who practice natural horsemanship, like Monty Roberts or Pat Parelli or John Lyons (a believer BTW) I've thought about writing one example but was afraid of how people would react. It did have to do with submission in marriage in fact. Sounds confusing, but I could write it all out.
I think I'll stay :tape for now.

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[joint heir]

Hi Joy...that was a great post....I really liked the analogy....


How to actually submit....what submission looks like is something all believers have to at one point wrestle with....


I think that it helps to remember that submission is something that comes out of the heart....and it really has nothing to do with what we say or do....

let me explain....a wife could do everything her husband wanted and never speak out and be on the surface in submission....but on the inside she could be seething.....so really nothing she did was of any value....she is just allowing resentment to build....

God is interested in the heart.....so before either spouse should interact with the other....they should do a heart check...not a behavior check....

Do I have an attitude of service?.....do I want what is best for my spouse instead of what is best for me?

any words or behaviors that naturally follow this heart check are only going to be beneficial.....

that might be going along with the other spouse...it might be a word of correction from the Lord...it might be a moment of bringing up questions your spouse has not considered....

there are no wrong words when your heart is placing yourself lower and putting your spouse above....even if you are in disagreement or unsure about something...your words are going to come out of a right heart

Luke 6
45The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.




the way to get this right heart is to ask the Lord to form it in you....you can't make yourself be submitted to another...it is unnatural to the human experience....you need divine intervention..



practically it comes down to using words of respect....

"I have a concern....can we talk about this?"
"I am not sure that will work...why are you convinced?"

these are some ways to show disagreement yet remain in submission....when you are placing yourself under someone that does not mean that you no longer have concerns, thoughts, ideas and words from the Lord....

[joy4Him2day]

Joint Heir:

That was a really insightful answer, and I really do try to check my heart, but I will try to pay better attention about that.

At first, I thought I should never conflict, but that wasn't working because I wasn't being truthful and harbored anger....now the next years of our marriage, I would like to tell the truth, but of course, with the right heart.
It is a new communication, and it has him reeling, and feeling like he is married to a stranger. I try to be gentle, build at the same time, and quite frankly, dispise conflict, so going along is easier for me.....but, I am learning to tell the truth, to be a good soldier, and I think I should not remain intimidated by someone who loves me....so, not change just because it makes us both uncomfortable. The Lord knows my motive is not headship, but to be true to myself, and not pretend and then harbor anger and resentment. This is a tough task, and I wanted some input. I liked it when I read that meekness did not mean giving up your strength, or pretending you didn't have any, or presuming you didn't have any......I think that must be what having Good Understanding is about (Abigail)....
and mostly, I want to run when challenged about the validity of my thoughts, and then, of course, I feel stupid. I need to break this cycle as it is destructive to both of us and our relationship.
I am praying for courage, as that is what I need, to stand up for truth, in the hope of a stronger partnership, to fullfill the call of the gospel, for both of us.


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[joint heir]

I agree... it is all a learning lesson isn't it....we all have our moments of selfishness....

but we just have to let the Spirit guide us for every decision....and that is tough....because it requires 24 hour prayer....I have yet to accomplish that....

[I Believe!!!]

Hi there joy4Him2day:wave

I really identified with what you had to say in regards to communicating with your husband in a respectful manner.:nod

I used to be afraid to express my needs, opinions, or ask for simple favors for fear of causing waves too. I've learned that if I simply state my feelings about a situation I didn't like and then let him figure out the changes or apologies that need to be made, often my dh would take care of the situation. It seemed really important to give my dh some space to come to his own decision. Sometimes our poor guys have no idea that there's a problem and we just need to be direct and ask for their help.;):



and mostly, I want to run when challenged about the validity of my thoughts, and then, of course, I feel stupid.

That's so frustrating when that happens, especially when you know darn well inside that you're a very intelligent person. My dh is the personality type that really needs facts to back up an opinion, which is fine, except he can be a bit lawyer like about it sometimes. I've learned not to feel inadequate and try to provide facts. Sometimes I also just have to say, "It's my opinion and I'm happy with it!". I don't argue much, I just stick to what I think and leave him alone with his thoughts. Sometimes we just out and out do not agree on a subject and that's ok. If our opinions differ on a decision needed to be made, I'll express my opinion and let him make the final decision.


At first, I thought I should never conflict, but that wasn't working because I wasn't being truthful and harbored anger....now the next years of our marriage, I would like to tell the truth, but of course, with the right heart.

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Sorry joy4Him2day...I'm lauphing because I too thought that as well.:B: Marriage will always contain conflict, it's how you deal with it that matters. It sounds like you do have the right heart and you're developing a bit more courage. Just be sure to state how you feel (don't attack him) and what you think will make you feel better. It's also very good to assure your husband that you still admire and respect him and that you're just letting him know what you need so as to not keep him guessing. If he gets upset ask him why...he might be getting a message totally different than what you're sending.

Example...one day (in the first year of our very inexperienced marriage:laugh ) I asked dh if he would help me clean up the livingroom (it was getting really out of hand) and dh sighed, frowned and folded his arms. Now everything in me wanted to just lash out (human nature?) at him, but I put aside my anger for a moment and asked him what it was about my question that made him so upset. To my surprise his response was, "I feel like you're saying I'm a bad husband!". Wow, good thing I left the iron frying pan in the kitchen, I wasn't expecting that answer!:freaked

Well to make a long post a bit shorter, I assured him that I thought he was an awesome hubby and I just needed his help. He got right up and helped out, and if I had lit into him instead of trying to understand his reaction we would have had a big old fight!

Hope this helps, for some reason I felt compelled to share so much with you.:gossip Take care, and you'll be in my prayers.

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