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SeaDreamer
January 11th, 2004, 02:23 PM
I'm kind of confused if this should go here or in Anything Goes so please feel free to move if needed.
SPOILER ALERT.......
I just finished In His Image, the first book. My question is this: Does he explain why he handled the Disaster the way that he did? I'm assuming this is supposed to be the rapture. But the bodies were still there. :confused Our bodies are changed so our bodies do go in the rapture. We don't get new ones, the old ones are changed.
I'm not asking for the explanation itself, only wondering if I can look forward to one. It's really driving me nuts. :D:
nanato3
January 11th, 2004, 08:13 PM
SD; I read them all some time ago, and no., he continues on with the trilogy .. I guess he believes we will leave our earthly bodies here when we are raptured.... interestingly my son and I were discussing this just an hour ago and we decided to study further to see if God would lead us to a new conclusion and perhaps ...just perhaps... we may depart in the rapture but leave this "robe of flesh" as the old hymn goes?? I dunno.. nanato3
SeaDreamer
January 11th, 2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by nanato3
SD; I read them all some time ago, and no., he continues on with the trilogy .. I guess he believes we will leave our earthly bodies here when we are raptured.... interestingly my son and I were discussing this just an hour ago and we decided to study further to see if God would lead us to a new conclusion and perhaps ...just perhaps... we may depart in the rapture but leave this "robe of flesh" as the old hymn goes?? I dunno.. nanato3
That's odd. I wish he'd give an explanation at least as to how he came to this conclusion.
After reading it I've been thinking of doing the same, studying it out.
Thanks for replying. :):
Hutton
January 11th, 2004, 11:28 PM
I haven't read these books yet but I have ordered them... :D:
As far as our bodies being left behind, they will not be.
The Bible says the dead shall rise first. Well that must be their bodies because it also says absent from the body present with the Lord.
We are to be changed from corruptible to incorruptible bodies and souls. We will become like Jesus body when he was changed after his death and resurrection.
SeaDreamer
January 12th, 2004, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Hutton
As far as our bodies being left behind, they will not be.
The Bible says the dead shall rise first. Well that must be their bodies because it also says absent from the body present with the Lord.
We are to be changed from corruptible to incorruptible bodies and souls. We will become like Jesus body when he was changed after his death and resurrection.
I agree but that's not the way it's handled in the book. :confused
starrs0
January 12th, 2004, 09:17 PM
I think it's an interesting spin on how the Rapture might occur. Personally I think it can happen either way doesn't make any differnce to me as long as I'm a part of it. :D:
PDuv
March 2nd, 2004, 10:40 AM
Question regarding the beginning of the 1st book:
I remember that they said that the cloth of the Shroud was not available at the time of Jesus, therefore, it was a fraud, but they debunked that theory by providing a solution - what was the solution (if any)?
farfromhome
March 2nd, 2004, 05:46 PM
I was watching the history channel the other night and they had a show about the shroud. They said that years ago there was a church fire and that it changed the chemical composition in the shroud and that is why they could not get an accurate date for it.
I believe that is how they explained it. Now the shrould is darkening and they think that soon you will not be able to see the image. But, from the way they talked on the show they think that it is the image of Christ. They have tried every scientific thing possible and they can't find an explanation.
mld726
March 15th, 2004, 01:35 PM
Book 3 "Acts of God" is available now.
I'm looking forward to reading it. :thumb
YSIC
kimmy38
July 27th, 2004, 08:30 PM
Question regarding the beginning of the 1st book:
I remember that they said that the cloth of the Shroud was not available at the time of Jesus, therefore, it was a fraud, but they debunked that theory by providing a solution - what was the solution (if any)?
The solution was that the shroud was in the Ark of the Covenant and
another spoiler alert
the inside of the ark since it was the dwellingplace of God, was not bound by time, space, etc....so for the amount of time that the shroud was in the ark, it didn't age.....
pretty ingenious! :faint
Hyssop
July 27th, 2004, 11:48 PM
I've always kind of leaned towards the rapture possibly leaving our fleshly bodies behind, just a hunch.
RonnieBee
July 28th, 2004, 12:52 AM
When the jewish rulers ask Jesus about the resurection, He said:
Luke 20:34-40 / ESV-Bible-Online
34 And Jesus said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, 36 for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons [7] of the resurrection. 37 But that the dead are raised, even Moses showed, in the passage about the bush, where he calls the Lord the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. 38 Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living, for all live to him.” 39 Then some of the scribes answered, “Teacher, you have spoken well.” 40 For they no longer dared to ask him any question.
What kind of bodies do angels have?
We know the angles appeared to the women at the tomb as persons clothed in white.
We know that when Jesus walked on the road to Emmaus, he was able to disguise himself, so they were not aware of who he was until later.
Also, we know angels can appear on earth because it says we may have entertained some of them unawares.
Hebrews 13:2
Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
mrshoward
July 28th, 2004, 06:19 AM
I've read the triogy (and enjoyed it!). Returning to the orignal question---I believe the Disaster/Rapture thing is explained in the last book, in his end notes. Something like that. If I remember correctly, it has something to do with our bodies being "changed," and the Greek meaning of that word. I'll have to dig the books out and investigate further. But there is an explanation, either in book 3 or the author's notes.
This probably isn't much help!
mld726
July 28th, 2004, 08:01 AM
I was watching the history channel the other night and they had a show about the shroud. They said that years ago there was a church fire and that it changed the chemical composition in the shroud and that is why they could not get an accurate date for it.
I believe that is how they explained it. Now the shrould is darkening and they think that soon you will not be able to see the image. But, from the way they talked on the show they think that it is the image of Christ. They have tried every scientific thing possible and they can't find an explanation
I've since heard on some sort of PBS program that the particular weaving technique of the cloth of the shroud was very unique to the 1st century AD. The expert also noted the region where this cloth was made. I believe she referred to that region as "Palestine". This statement was meant to refute the carbon dating results, which as suggested were unreliable due to that fire.
D.K
July 29th, 2004, 12:06 AM
I really enjoyed this series! The Disaster, I think, was part genious of the author. What it did was make 'the rapture' sinister and also cloaked it well for us ppl that 'know' what the rapture will be like.. :confused
For ppl that have not read this series yet, it will test your knowledge and your faith. (Later in the last part of 2 and first half of 3) I was just about convinced that 'Chris' was who he said he was. Seeing the book from Decker's eyes was a look into what a non-believer would see, as well as how deceiving a person can be when you are a Christian.
I think this series was way way better than the Left Behind series.
*** spoiler ***
Quite ingenious how the KDP got ppl rid of the mark!!
Charity4Ever
July 29th, 2004, 05:57 PM
I'm reading the series now. I've read the first book, and and I'm at the beginning of the second.
My reaction thus far: WOWWWWWWWWWWW :faint :faint :faint
Some crazy insane end-times books :faint
SPOILERS BELOW...
I also wondered about the Disaster.
The parts about St. John blew my mind. I had no idea about this theory, until I read the books...and then read up on the Apostle and his history later. I still don't know what to think.
Milner gives me the creeps. Just reading some of the stuff that he says about the New Age....ack. :P:
I actually understand more of how the UN works now from the books, it is that realistic
Christopher...you almost have to feel sorry since it covered the vulnerabilities and feelings...you have to keep in mind Biblical prophecy and have faith in Christ...very believable
I thought the way that they got the name of Wormwood was hilarious!
nanato3
July 30th, 2004, 11:58 PM
Gee I read these books so long ago that all these remarks have me scratching my head ...Charity says "The way the y got the name Wormwood was hilarious"...and I can't remember how they got it!!! I've got to go to bed now wondering how they got that name!!!!!...God Bless,,,,,nana
Charity4Ever
July 31st, 2004, 01:27 PM
SPOILER
There were 3 asteroids...the character who named them was a graduate student that named them after Calvin, Hobbes, and Wormwood (after Mrs. Wormwood) after pictures on her father's old mug that made her angry
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