Love your enemy, even the devil?

[Child-Of-God]

I was reading the other somewhere about loving your enemy, not the devil isour enemy, are we supposed to love him or forgive him?, i am a bit bluured on this subject

[Gary]

My daughter asked me this question years ago. No, we are not supposed to love satan. We are told to love God first and our neighbour as ourselves. Satan is the author of all evil and we are not to hold any regard, admiration, respect or affection for this creature.

[antsinmypants]

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.


Luk 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.


Rom 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
Rom 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things [is] death.
Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.


Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

[Rom831]

I disagree. I think we should. Not love as in respect or have any reguard for. We can love AND hold in contempt at the same time. Satan is a creation of God, he was an incredible being until he abandoned God and is now the most lost of all God's creations. He is a creation of God's and was magnificant and I love him as such. But I despise him for what he has become. And I pitty him for what he will become.

We know how it ends so we know this will not happen. But could you immagine the celebration in heavan if Satan actually did repent and bow before God accepting Him as Lord and Saviour?!?! Would God not love him if he did? Should we not?

We are told to hate evil. So we should hate the evil OF Satan. But he is a creation of God and a pitiable one who will suffer horribly for eternity for his falling.

Bless...ArtS

[Raphael]

Rom831. I think an unreasoning, uncontrolled hate could make us act unproductively, as when Skywalker was encouraged by the evil Emperor to "use his hate". I think what we're called to have is an eternal, unbending vigilance where Satan is concerned, since it's his motivation that's continually and solidly hate-oriented. He hates God, and His creation (especially us). So we must don the armor of Ephesians Chapter 6 daily. And our conversation with the Devil? None! We are to "rebuke" him. That's a one-way conversation. He's too clever for me to debate with, and too skilled at temptation for me to "pity" - at least in this life.

[Rom831]

I agree we should have nothing to do with satan and flee from him in every instance. If the archangel Michael couldn't stand against him without Jesus, neither can I (fortunately we have the same 'weapon' as Michael).

I was just saying it is possible to do all that and yet love God's creation even if it has corrupted itself. I really do pitty Satan. That requires love to some degree.

Bless...ArtS

[Raphael]

be witness to what light-bearer Lucifer, choir director of Heaven, the "annointed cherub that covered" looked like before his fall? If he really had pipes and tabrets (drums) in his body, maybe he looked like a one-man band. Probably could have won a Grammy (especially if he were "trumpeting" his own selection).

[2bossy]

This sounds a little "Star Wars-y" but it doesn't do you any good to HATE anyone, even Satan. I think the Bible wants us to love our enemy, however so that they can see Christ's love through us. This would be pretty pointless for Satan.

[Lonewolf7]

Originally posted by Rom831


We know how it ends so we know this will not happen. But could you immagine the celebration in heavan if Satan actually did repent and bow before God accepting Him as Lord and Saviour?!?! Would God not love him if he did? Should we not?
Bless...ArtS

Your intentions are good..........

Luke 19:10
For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost."

Luke 5:32
I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

Hebrews 13:6
So we say with confidence, "The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?"

Hebrews 2:16
For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants.



Perhaps God will show us what it was like before all hell broke loose.

[Elizabeth_S]

Psalm 97
9For You, LORD, are most high above all the earth;
You are exalted far above all gods.

10You who love the LORD, hate evil!
He preserves the souls of His saints;
He delivers them out of the hand of the wicked.
11Light is sown for the righteous,
And gladness for the upright in heart.
We are to hate evil, And Satan is evil personified.

I can't find anywhere we are told to love satan in any way.

[KC Phelps]

Hate the sin, love the sinner. Pray that the evil one is kept away from us.

[duckdogger]

Just can't see a big group hug for Satan.

[rs41]

Originally posted by Elizabeth_S
We are to hate evil, And Satan is evil personified.

I can't find anywhere we are told to love satan in any way. I agree. And also Rom 831 I don't think it is possible for angels to repent and be saved. The plan of salvation is for mankind.

[Raphael]

When they brought Saddam out of his hole, I thought of the verse "And he will be brought low, to the sides of the pit...and they will wonder - is this the man that deceived the nations?"

Is the above (paraphrased) verse talking about Satan?

[antsinmypants]

the only thing i'm finding with some of the wording you've used is talking about The Harlot Bavelon:


Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast [it] into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

Rev 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft [he be], shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.


Just now I looked up "the pit" and found this talking of the King of Bavelon -- HaSatan:


Isa 14:3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

Isa 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

Isa 14:5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, [and] the sceptre of the rulers.

Isa 14:6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, [and] none hindereth.

Isa 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, [and] is quiet: they break forth into singing.

Isa 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, [and] the cedars of Lebanon, [saying], Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

Isa 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet [thee] at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, [even] all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

Isa 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

Isa 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, [and] the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, [and] consider thee, [saying, Is] this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isa 14:17 [That] made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; [that] opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, [even] all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

Isa 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, [and as] the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Isa 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, [and] slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Isa 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Isa 14:22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

Isa 14:23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, [so] shall it stand:

Isa 14:25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

Isa 14:26 This [is] the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this [is] the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.

Isa 14:27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul [it]? and his hand [is] stretched out, and who shall turn it back?


:wave

[heavenlierealm]

im sorry, but i just cant come to love satan:mad

[Mercy4Me]

Wow, I can't believe some are saying we are to love satan.

We are NOT to love him, we are not to pity him. He made his choice ages ago when he decided to try to put himself above God.

Satan's fate is sealed for eternity, he will never be saved. As someone pointed out salvation is for mankind, not angels.

The angels all made their choice at that time, the ones who left with satan chose to turn away from God, they are lost forever, and they wouldnt go back even if they could.

Their evil and hatred for God has consumed them, and I for one, do not pity, or love any of them.

Be careful when you start saying you "love" satan or pity him, that gives him a foothold out of this world on you.

Those who think we should love or pray for satan is playing with fire.

[Vickimac]

I'm sitting here rather amazed myself, Dana.:sigh

"You who love the Lord, HATE evil."
What is difficult to understand?



Psalm 97:10
Proverbs 8:13
Amos 5:15

Satan is evil. There is no love or pity.

[duckdogger]

As God has already told us that Satan will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire, I don't believe we should waste prayer time on Satan.

I am sure he was overly protected as a baby angel and all, a product of his environment, etc. But shucks, he made his choices and now gets to live forever with the consequences.

[humbleone]

I RESPECT Satan, the same way I respect the chronic illness that is running rampant in my body. Meaning, I definitely take it very seriously! But as for loving him? No.

I have had similar thoughts as the person who started this thread though. I have found myself wondering if it was wrong for me to feel sorry for demons and such. I guess I shouldn't? But as for Satan, I hate all that he stands for, for all the horrible evil he has caused in this world, this country and in my own life. I HATE it, but I respect *him*.


Peace,


humbleone

[blitzkreig]

It is interesting that there is a plan of Salvation for fallen man...

but there is no such plan of Salvation for fallen angels.

[BHiles]

I fear some on here are giving heed and an opening to Satan and his minions. Either through the music listened to or the occultic themes in viewing Satan has weaved a sympathetic view of himself into the mind. A grave danger!

Psalm 139:17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!
18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.
19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.