Is God In Control of When We Die?

[Stevangelist]

Since God knows if we will be saved or if we won't be saved it would seem possible the timing of our death could be based on Gods will for us.

Do you believe our all-knowing God chooses the timing of our death?

HOLY BIBLE Matthew 10
29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

[Mercy4Me]

Good question. I don't know if He decides when we die, I would think so.

Isnt there a scripture talking about the number of our days given to us?

I know God knows when, and how we will die, and I dont think we will die before our "time."

Not sure, I cant wait to see others opinions on this. :nod

[Jany]

I believe Job chapter 14 speaks of this http://www.maverickreport.com/images/smilies/goldfish.gif <><

[Jade]

Matthew 10
29Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father.


He knows and it is His will when we die, but maybe He did not specifically choose when we die. Perhaps it is more accurate to say He chooses when we don't die, if we face such a situation.

[Stevangelist]

He knows and it is His will when we die, but maybe He did not specifically choose when we die. Perhaps it is more accurate to say He chooses when we don't die, if we face such a situation.

It reminds me of the people who seem to have many lives and that they should have been dead 20 times already. I keep thinking God must keep them alive for some reason. :twitch

[cameron222]

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

My interpretation of this verse is that man has an "appointment"
with death. An appointment has a specific time.

[blitzkreig]

Been there... done that.

Here is a link to a similar topic on the Bible Study forum ... titled continued pre-occupation with death (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112713)

[Ponderin]

The importance of Providence (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8449/use3.html)


Margaret Clarkson has said, "The sovereignty of God is the one impregnable rock to which the suffering human heart must cling. The circumstances surrounding our lives are no accident; they may be the work of evil, but that evil is held firmly within the might hand of our sovereign God....All evil is subject to Him, and evil cannot touch His children unless He permits it."[1]


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[Ponderin]

Originally posted by cameron222
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

My interpretation of this verse is that man has an "appointment"
with death. An appointment has a specific time.

You are correct!









Hebrews
Read This Chapter (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=heb+9&t=kjv&sr=0)
9:27 (http://www.studylight.org/isb/bible.cgi?query=hebrews+9%3A27&section=0&it=kjv&ot=bhs&nt=na&Enter=Perform+Search) And as it is appointed (5736) (http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/extras.cgi?number=5736) unto men once to die (5629) , but after this the judgment: kai kaq' oson apokeitai (http://www.studylight.org/isb/view.cgi?number=606) (5736) toiv anqrwpoiv apac apoqanein, (5629) meta de touto krisiv,

Scofield Reference Notes (http://www.studylight.org/com/srn/view.cgi?book=heb&chapter=009)






9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

die Death, physical, Summary: (1) Physical death is a consequence of sin Genesis 3:19 and the universality of death proves the universality of sin Romans 5:12-14. (2) Physical death affects the body only, and is neither cessation of life nor of consciousness (See Scofield "Habakkuk 2:5") . See Scofield "Luke 16:23". Revelation 6:9,10. (3) All physical death ends in the resurrection of the body. See "Resurrection" Job 19:25. (See Scofield "1 Corinthians 15:52") . (4) Because physical death is a consequence of sin, it is not inevitable to the redeemed Genesis 5:24; 1 Corinthians 15:51,52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17. (5) Physical death has for the believer a peculiar qualification. It is called "sleep," because his body may be "awakened" at any moment Philippians 3:20,21; 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18. (6) The soul and spirit live, independently of the death of the body, which is described as a "tabernacle" (tent), in which the "I" dwells, and which may be put off 2 Corinthians 5:1-8; 1 Corinthians 15:42-44; 2 Peter 1:13-15. (7) At the believer's death he is "clothed upon" with a "house from heaven" pending the resurrection of the "earthly house," and is at once "with the Lord." 2 Corinthians 5:1-8; Philippians 1:23; Luke 23:43. As to the death of Christ, (See Scofield "Matthew 27:50") .



The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (http://www.studylight.org/com/tsk/view.cgi?book=heb&chapter=009)


Verse 27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

as Genesis 3:19; 2 Samuel 14:14; Job 14:5; 30:23; Psalms 89:48; Ecclesiastes 3:20; 9:5,10; 12:7; Romans 5:12

By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return R87 to the ground, Because from R88 it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return."


2 Samuel Chapter 14:14 - ["For we R393 will surely die and are like R394 water spilled on the ground which cannot be gathered up again. Yet God does not take away life, but plans ways F159 so that the R395 banished one will not be cast out from him.


Robertson's Word Pictures of the New Testament (http://www.studylight.org/com/rwp/view.cgi?book=heb&chapter=009&verse=027)


Hebrews 9:27It is appointed (apokeitai). Present middle (or passive) of apokeimai, "is laid away" for men.

[Jany]

Originally posted by blitzkreig
Been there... done that.

Here is a link to a similar topic on the Bible Study forum ... titled continued pre-occupation with death (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112713)

Even though you've "been there...done that...some haven't "been there...done that".

Why do folks post posts like this? There are many who come here and don't see every post or thread and are searching. So what if the same question gets asked? :confused <><

[Jany]

This is the very reason that I am hestitant in posting a "new" thread :doh <><

[Livin4Jesus]

I believe that God knows when we will die, of course, but I also believe that we do play a part in when that is. For instance, people who die of lung cancer from smoking played a large part in determining when they would die. I do not believe in fatalism.

[Jany]

A lot of folks who smoke never die from lung cancer. A lot of folks who drink, don't die from liver disease. A lot of folks who do drugs, live a long life.

Then you have that person, who happens to walk across the street at the "right" (or wrong) moment, and bam! :confused <><

[Shyguy]

I think God has an appointed time that we are to die, but we can cut that time short through our own sinful actions.

[Elizabeth_S]

I remember a poster her once said...."Until God is ready for me to die, I am immortal. But when He has decided my time on earth is ended, nothing can keep me from that day."

[Lonewolf7]

Originally posted by Stevangelist
Since God knows if we will be saved or if we won't be saved it would seem possible the timing of our death could be based on Gods will for us.

Do you believe our all-knowing God chooses the timing of our death?



YES.....

Jer. 1:5. "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee . . ."

Psalm 139:16
your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

Acts 17
26….; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us

Psalm 37
18 The days of the blameless are known to the LORD ,

Job 14:5
Man's days are determined; you have decreed the number of his months and have set limits he cannot exceed.

Ecclesiastes 9
12 Moreover, no man knows when his hour will come:

Ecclesiastes 8:8
No man has power over the wind to contain it [ 8:8 Or [ over his spirit to retain it ] ] ; so no one has power over the day of his death.


Sounds like it is a 'sure thing' to me.

[blitzkreig]

Originally posted by Jany
Even though you've "been there...done that...some haven't "been there...done that". Why do folks post posts like this? There are many who come here and don't see every post or thread and are searching. So what if the same question gets asked? :confused <>< I think you missed the point of my posting the link to the other discussion Jany... that is why people post links such as this... so others can find the points which may have been brought out in the other discussion.<sigh>

What was the point of your post? To point out that you do not see every post. I think no one sees every post.

There is no problem in posing any question more than once. Do you have a challenge with any linking or just links that point to discussions within Rapture Ready?

[blitzkreig]

Originally posted by Ponderin
The importance of Providence (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8449/use3.html)

Margaret Clarkson has said, "The sovereignty of God is the one impregnable rock to which the suffering human heart must cling. The circumstances surrounding our lives are no accident; they may be the work of evil, but that evil is held firmly within the might hand of our sovereign God....All evil is subject to Him, and evil cannot touch His children unless He permits it."[1]

:): Very good link Ponderin.

Rom 8:28-31
(28) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
(29) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
(30) Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
(31) What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

I love this part... : "If God be for us, who can be against us?" God is in total control. :thumb

[ronredeem]

I don’t know about you guys but I will never die. I was given life. There is no death in Christ

[Ponderin]

Ron!

Thanks for the reminder!


1 Corinthians 15:54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." 55 "Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?" 56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.


:):


Blitz!

:thumb

[Boomer]

Remember in Job when Satan challenged God about Job? God told Satan he could do whatever he wanted, but he could not take his life. Does this mean that Satan CAN take lives too? I thought only God could do that when our work for Him on earth was done.

Boomer

[blitzkreig]

Boomer I think the Job thing is pretty clear what God would think of that... no.