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houseparent
October 20th, 2003, 10:42 PM
What do all think about people who claim to be prophets?
FOr example, if someone came here and insisted they were a prophet with a word for all of us how would you take it?
Especially if the word contained NO scripture and when you asked about that this so called prophet told you it was the hearer's job to see if the word could be backed by the word.
Jany
October 20th, 2003, 10:51 PM
“Let no one in any way deceive you,”. It is up to each of us, to carefully check out everything with the word of God.
Remember the Apostle Paul said, “I have fully preached the gospel of Christ” (Rom. 15:19). Also, “learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other” (2Cor. 4:6). That’s pretty plain, isn’t it? We are protected if we stay with the Bible.
If Christ was “fully preached” in the days of the apostles, why listen to different doctrine on Christ invented by some modern-day teacher/prophet? We all need to stay within the Word of God, the Bible, and dismiss anything extra! http://www.maverickreport.com/images/smilies/goldfish.gif <><
DeeLeeKay
October 20th, 2003, 10:55 PM
I would be highly skeptical.
There are only two more Prophets that I know about, and they will be in Jerusalem during the Trib. Other then that? I have yet to find a qualified Prophet of God.
houseparent
October 20th, 2003, 10:56 PM
I think your second refrence is incorrect;
2 Corinthians 4
6For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness,"[1] made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
houseparent
October 20th, 2003, 11:00 PM
learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other”
I am having a terrible time finding this verse!
Can anyone help?
B A N E
October 20th, 2003, 11:04 PM
Not
2 Cor 4:6
HTH
Jany
October 20th, 2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by houseparent
learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other”
I am having a terrible time finding this verse!
Can anyone help?
Sorry, 1 Cor 4:6 (You ever make a typo?) http://www.frinkian.com/images/smiles/heart.gif <><
Brad MetalMan
October 20th, 2003, 11:09 PM
It really depends.
I believe that the Bible has been given to us and that the canon is closed. No more scripture or infallible revelation as given to the old testament prophets and the new testament apostles will be given.
I do believe the gifts of the spirit are still around, and this includes prophecy. However, the Bible is our standard to measure all prophecy by, since anything being spoken by the Spirit will not contradict what has been already given (because God cannot contradict himself).
My views are very close to Wayne Grudem, who believes the New Covenant equivalent of the Old Testament prophet is the apostle, not the prophet. The prophets of the new testament speak what is revealed by the Spirit, but it is not 'The word of God for today'. We already have the word of God, its called the Bible.
I believe that prophecy is necessary for the church to function as God intended.
But as far as prophets go, not everyone who claims to be one is one. It really would be dependant on the individual as to what I would believe about them. Prophets in general are an important part of the body.
houseparent
October 20th, 2003, 11:15 PM
JANY!
I was not putting you down in any way. I was just frustrated that I couldn't find the verse.
I appreciate it and wanted it ASAP.
It was inpatience speaking, not anger or doubt with what you wrote.
THANKS!
Jany
October 20th, 2003, 11:45 PM
Okey dokey, houseparent. My fingers start to "fly" when typing and sometimes those "oneseys twoseys" get "mixed-up" http://www.maverickreport.com/images/smilies/goldfish.gif <><
MrMannn
October 21st, 2003, 05:02 AM
I have yet to see a modern day prophet that could stand the test of a prophet. The prophecy of predicting the future was last seen in the Book of Revelations.
Prophecy today is the gift of presenting God's ALREADY revealed Word! Not giving us new revelations. So I think pastors are the modern day prophets. ure God may reveal some bit of enlightenment, but it doesn't take prophecy to revieve that. The Word is complete, finished. Let no man add to that Word.
Guys like Benny Hinn twist the Word to make up for their lies, saying the test of the prophet no longer apply to the new testament world. But I say no, scripture cannot back that presumption. Being filled with the Holy Spirit, there is NO EXCUSE to misinterpret the revealed Word of God. 100% accuracy should be more likely for a man indwelt by the Spirit than even a prophet of old.
If a so called prophet is ever wrong (even just once!), then ALL of his prophecy is from the devil-nothing he says can ever be trusted again! I don't even think a man who deliberately gives false prophecy can be saved.
Now a false prophet can be forgiven/saved. But he needs to repent just like the rest of us. But if he does not publicly repudiate his past misdeeds false prophecies that mislead the flock, then I would doubt his repentance (Its the whole fruit of the Spirit thing: A saved man would be led of the Spirit to correct such a deceitfull past)
Hootmon
October 21st, 2003, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Brad MetalMan
I believe that the Bible has been given to us and that the canon is closed. No more scripture or infallible revelation as given to the old testament prophets and the new testament apostles will be given.
I do believe the gifts of the spirit are still around, and this includes prophecy. However, the Bible is our standard to measure all prophecy by, since anything being spoken by the Spirit will not contradict what has been already given (because God cannot contradict himself). :thumb
Workfromhomemom
October 21st, 2003, 11:34 AM
1 Cor 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1 Cor 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
1 Cor 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
Col 1:26 [Even] the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Paul was the given the responsibility to "fulfill" (complete) the word of God ( for this age) which he did. There was prophecy only so long as the Word of God was still incomplete. Once the writings were completed, "that which is perfect is come". Definitely by 100AD all prophesing had ceased.
There are ramifications to what I just wrote that some might not understand. Study Galations 2... and Ephesians 2,3.
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