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tractsforchrist
September 27th, 2003, 04:55 AM
NIV: Matthew 21-23
21 Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only who does the will of my Father wois in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perfom many miracles?'
23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, evildoers!'

I know I just made a post of my testimony, but I wanted to post a new thread for a different questions I have after returning to the faith.

I have become saved again, or at least I feel I do. But now I have questions about that. People say on this message board to not trust your feelings, but trust the holy spirit to dwell in you. To judge the holy spirit by the fruits. Well, I fell off the wagon today(spiritually, not alcholic wise) and felt rebellious and this is within 4 weeks of coming back to the faith. Does this mean that I am a seed that is quickly shooting up but dying--not dwelt with the holy spirit?

Also, That verse up there really concerns me. I have problems with the OSAS because of that verse, although I would like to think that is what it meant.

I am also afraid that I am approaching legalism if I don't adopt the OSAS doctrine because what sin will cause my damnation or to lose my salvation?

Also Hebrews 6:4-6 scares me, but I believe in the prodigal son.

ACK!!!!! I am so confused..............
I want to believe I am saved and the bible says I should be 100% sure of my salvation, but this is really important for me because this could cost me my sould if I follow down a path that leads to hell.

I want to be with Jesus in the rapture and now every time I see a flash of light I think "OH NO! I missed the rapture!"

MY confusion is to no end.... I don't think I can ascribe to legalism because I am a terrible sinner now (even though I try real hard to not physically sin, my main problem is thought sin and speaking sin.

Please help me solve this confusion

Robin
September 27th, 2003, 12:58 PM
Just the fact that you're convicted of your sin and hate it shows the work of the Holy Spirit.

I found that I had to completely turn from the things that fed
wrong thoughts, desires. No more certain types of movies, TV, books, etc. That alone has helped tremendously. Sometimes you must even cut ties with old friends.

Praying for you!

MikeJ
September 27th, 2003, 01:00 PM
tractsforchrist,

Hal Lindsey has explained those two passages this way;

In Mat 7:21-23, the people the Lord is talking to believed in a works salvation. They're standing before God at the Great White Throne Judgement saying that they should be allowed into Heaven because of what they did not because of what the Lord did on the cross. They were never born-again because the Lord said "I never knew you."

In Heb 6:4-6, the author of Hebrews is chastizing former Judaizers who had become Christians in the early years of the Church for reverting to animal sacrifices. He was explaining to them how serious an affront to God this was. They had grownup under OT law and animal sacrifice was a part of their culture but was unneeded after Christ was crucified.

Mike

Lonewolf7
September 27th, 2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by tractsforchrist

I am also afraid that I am approaching legalism if I don't adopt the OSAS doctrine because what sin will cause my damnation or to lose my salvation?

Also Hebrews 6:4-6 scares me, but I believe in the prodigal son.

ACK!!!!! I am so confused..............
I want to believe I am saved and the bible says I should be 100% sure of my salvation, but this is really important for me because this could cost me my sould if I follow down a path that leads to hell.

Please help me solve this confusion

tractsforchrist,

It is not about 'adopting' a position, It is KNOWING what eternal life IS and when you recieve Him...(when & where you obtain eternal life)

Reflect upon these verses and then ask some questions in regard to them.
Acts 19:2
and asked them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?"

Luke 11:13
If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"

Galatians 3:3
Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?

1 Peter 1:9
for you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls

Titus 3:5.....'He Saved us by the.."Rebirth" by the Holy Spirit'

sunnyboy
September 27th, 2003, 07:49 PM
Dear TractsforChrist : Im glad to see that you are concerned about the most important issue of your life. So many are lost to the realization that you have.
The only way that you will find peace is to rest upon the written word of God. If you have repented and it sounds like you are to some measure, then ask God to give you His word of assurance.
Read the Gospels ,ask God what you must do to have peace.
Trust and obey the word and you will surely find some measure of peace. " Trust in the Lord with all your heart ,and lean not upon your own understanding"
It is a struggle, and a battle to be won.

I once heard a preacher say "If you dont have any doubts, I doubt for you".

God Bless you! and remember Jesus is faithful, and Loves you so much that He will never let you go! Praise God!!!:):